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Why Do We Cook So Many Foods at 350 Degrees?

Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:39 am
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:39 am
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Whether you’re making mouthwatering blueberry muffins from scratch or finally giving in to that partially opened box of fish sticks that's been hiding in the back of your freezer for eight months, there’s a fairly good chance that you’ll be heating your oven to 350ºF. How can such vastly different foods require the same cooking temperature?


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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:40 am to
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Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15114 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:44 am to
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Before temperature technology existed, Slate says, bakers would hold an arm inside the oven to see if they could stand it for more than 30 seconds. If they could, it wasn’t hot enough yet.


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111640 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:12 am to
I mean it's not really that crazy if you think about it, and I guess not unlike waving your hand over a hot grill to generally gauge if it's hot "enough."
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:13 am to
I'm going with "the Maillard reaction has a high end temperature of about 325 degrees. 350 degrees is generally a good temperature to use if browning is desired. Higher temperatures can result in excessive browning (e.g.: burning) of the outside of the food before the inside of the food is fully cooked. Lower temperatures will not ensure that the Maillard reaction occurs and gives you the nicely browned surface you want.".

All of these sciency food questions lately makes me want to dig out my copy of McGee's "On Food and Cooking" and burn through it again.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 10:19 am
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13578 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:22 am to
That's what most ovens with digital controls are preprogrammed to start at now. I think the packaged food industry just follows suit. Except for Pillsbury and Bagel Bites. For some reason Pillsbury rolls want 400, or 375 for dark pan. Bagel bites are 425. I wish my oven had presets.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:30 am to
Muffins are TERRIBLE cooked at 350. Tough, not as high rising, with a tendency to dry out. Try your next batch at 400. (Or even 5 minutes at 425, then turn down to 400, but most ppl can't be bothered with that.) The higher heat will give the muffins higher crowns and better browning.

Most things I bake are at 400+. I bake a bunch of breads at 425, pizzas at 500, pork tenderloin, roasted potatoes & other roasted veg at 425....

I'm struggling to think of anything I bake at 350. I mostly use 350 as a temp for reheating frozen baked goods.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13578 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:37 am to
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I'm struggling to think of anything I bake at 350. I mostly use 350 as a temp for reheating frozen baked goods


Same here. Although I reheat pizzas at 375 or 400. I cook cornbread at 450. Other stuff at 425.

One thing I learned when I bought this house 11 years ago was to check your oven. There was an original oven from the late 60s in the wall. I saw a thermometer clipped to the rack, and thought that was odd. If I set it to 350, on a dial, it never got above 300 on the thermometer. If I set it to 375 on the rack, it went above 450 on the thermometer. I played around with the dial trying to zero in on 375-400 range, but never could. So I had to buy a new oven.
Posted by HECM62
NOLA
Member since May 2016
549 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:51 am to
Question?? I also bake most of my breads at 425, and mist water in the oven if making french bread, or any other bread that needs a nice crust. If you use the circulate fan, do you lower the temp, or the time, or both. I don't use the feature often, except to melt toppings at the end of cooking. Thanks.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13578 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:53 am to
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If you use the circulate fan, do you lower the temp, or the time, or both.


Do you mean Convection? My previous place had one of those and I only used it cooking large pieces of meat like hams or roasts. Never when baking breads. Seems like it messed up the timing and rising.
Posted by skipreid
Mississippi
Member since Nov 2017
115 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:01 am to
Mrs Pauls calls for a temp of 425 F. Trust me on this one.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:12 am to
you bake frozen pizzas at 500?
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 3:31 pm to
working in professional kitchens has taught me to cook pretty much everything in extremely hot ovens. I go 425-450 convection for nearly everything I cook.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3935 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 8:47 pm to
400+ convection for just about everything. I turn it down for brownies, braised or stuff that smokes like bacon.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 8:59 pm to
Because 325 isn't hot enough?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:14 am to
when i hit bake on my oven it starts at 350.... too lazy to change it i guess.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:24 am to
If you’re trying to bake with steam (ie, what you’re trying to accomplish by spritzing the oven, to mimic a commercial deck oven’s true steam injection), then don’t use the convection fan (at least initially). What you’re trying to accomplish with the water misting is to keep the crust from setting too early: this allows for maximum oven spring (a higher-rising, loftier loaf). Using the convection fan will 1)blow out all the steam you just worked hard to create and 2)speed up the crust setting, creating a hard shell on the outside of the loaf too early in the baking. You want that crust staying soft and flexible as long as possible. The browning/firming of the crust should occur near the end of the bake.

So, if the loaf looks pale and it is near the end of the bake time, you can turn on the convection fan for a short while.

The best option in a home oven is to bake inside a closed vessel. Use a lidded cast iron Dutch oven...or for baguettes, try baking on a big rectangular pizza stone (preheated) and invert a stainless steel hotel pan (a steam table pan insert, the deep kind) over the loaves. This will trap the steam released by the dough, keeping the crust flexible as the loaf expands. Carefully take off the hot stainless steel pan about 10 minutes from the end of the baking time to allow loaves to brown.
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:27 am to
I never set at 350. 351 or 349 maybe. Sometimes 356.
But never 350
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
6851 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:27 pm to
Convection is great for drying things out such as homemade French fries or vegetables. You don't want to use it for most meats, breads, or things your trying to keep the juice in.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 3:18 pm to
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