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The Most Contagious Thing in The World is an Idea.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:10 pm
A few years ago, I made a post about craft made capicola cotto in my culinary arts class. Well, we finally got around to making a ham-type product and roasted pork out of Pork Butt to make Cuban style sandwiches. Here’s how we did it.
First we separated the coppa (neck) from the shoulder of the butt. In this image the red line shows the thick white fat line that indicates where to cut. The thin square oulines the anterior part of the “neck” portion of the scapula (blade bone) that leads to the foreleg.
Here is is again, the coppa is located to the left of the line and the shoulder is to the right. We made a lateral cut along the fat line to separate the two halves.
Next, we trimmed up the coppas to make them more cylindrical,
Bunch of coppas ready for injection. Our brine was 100% water, 2.5% salt, .5% MSG, 3% sugar, 3% molasses, .25% cure #1, & .25% phosphate. We threw in some sweet spices like cinnamon, star anise, clove, nutmeg, and allspice.
We injected each coppa and submerged them in brine for 48 hours. This image is after 48 hours on cure.
Students netting and tying up the coppas for hanging.
Hanging the “hams” to dry before smoking. Allowing the exterior to dry and create a pellicle promotes smoke adhesion, leading to better color, flavor, and smoke penetration.
“Hams” before smoking.
“Hams” post smoke.
Finished “hams”.
The diced pork butt pre-cure. Cure recipe; 2.5% salt, 2% sugar, .5% MSG, .5% Umami powder, .25% cure #1, 2% black pepper, 2% fresh oregano, 2% dried oregano, 2% granulated garlic, 2% fresh garlic, 2% lime zest.
The pork butt post-cure. Notice the color change which indicates the cure did it’s job.
Roasted pork before confit. I decided to cure and confit the pork so it could be preserved while waiting for the “ham” to be ready.
Roasted Pork, garlic cloves, thyme, bay leaves.
Pork ready for confit.
Pork after confit.
“Cubano” with sliced “ham” and pork pernil confit.
First we separated the coppa (neck) from the shoulder of the butt. In this image the red line shows the thick white fat line that indicates where to cut. The thin square oulines the anterior part of the “neck” portion of the scapula (blade bone) that leads to the foreleg.
Here is is again, the coppa is located to the left of the line and the shoulder is to the right. We made a lateral cut along the fat line to separate the two halves.
Next, we trimmed up the coppas to make them more cylindrical,
Bunch of coppas ready for injection. Our brine was 100% water, 2.5% salt, .5% MSG, 3% sugar, 3% molasses, .25% cure #1, & .25% phosphate. We threw in some sweet spices like cinnamon, star anise, clove, nutmeg, and allspice.
We injected each coppa and submerged them in brine for 48 hours. This image is after 48 hours on cure.
Students netting and tying up the coppas for hanging.
Hanging the “hams” to dry before smoking. Allowing the exterior to dry and create a pellicle promotes smoke adhesion, leading to better color, flavor, and smoke penetration.
“Hams” before smoking.
“Hams” post smoke.
Finished “hams”.
The diced pork butt pre-cure. Cure recipe; 2.5% salt, 2% sugar, .5% MSG, .5% Umami powder, .25% cure #1, 2% black pepper, 2% fresh oregano, 2% dried oregano, 2% granulated garlic, 2% fresh garlic, 2% lime zest.
The pork butt post-cure. Notice the color change which indicates the cure did it’s job.
Roasted pork before confit. I decided to cure and confit the pork so it could be preserved while waiting for the “ham” to be ready.
Roasted Pork, garlic cloves, thyme, bay leaves.
Pork ready for confit.
Pork after confit.
“Cubano” with sliced “ham” and pork pernil confit.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:23 pm to BigDropper
So much of that is over my head, and looks quite impressive.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:29 pm to BigDropper
There's an old Italian Canadian guy on YouTube who goes through making a capicola. It's interesting. Getting them into the net seemed hard. His channel is Cooking with the Coias, I think.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:00 pm to BigDropper
looks good. how long did you hang the hams before smoking?
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:09 pm to BigDropper
Nice
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:23 pm to t00f
quote:96 hours by default. We put them in the walk-in on Thursday and couldn't smoke them until Monday.
how long did you hang the hams before smoking?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:04 am to BigDropper
That is awesome, thank you for sharing
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:07 am to BigDropper
Awesome post. I upvoted.
My only hangup was trying to understand the percentages. But that’s on me. I think I understand the intended math of percentages, but I’m not there yet. I’m sure I’ll get there without needing you to explain further….maybe.
My only hangup was trying to understand the percentages. But that’s on me. I think I understand the intended math of percentages, but I’m not there yet. I’m sure I’ll get there without needing you to explain further….maybe.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:07 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:Scale the mass of the product you intend to cure in grams, multiply that weight by the percentage of the ingredient, weigh out the ingredient for the cure in grams.
My only hangup was trying to understand the percentages.
For example, if the pork I cured weighed 1000g, and the salt percentage is 2.5%, I multiply 1000×.025= 25. So I would scale 25g for the cure recipe. Repeat these steps for all ingredients.
It's easier and more efficient to create a spreadsheet with formulas so the only input you need to enter is the weight of the product. The ingredient weights are automatically calculated for you so you just need to scale ingredients mix.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:17 pm to BigDropper
Great job.
Here’s another idea you can think about to teach curing. Cure a pork tenderloin in the same wet brine. Smoke it (no net). Then slice it super thin on a slicer and add it to a sandwich (any creation) to enhance the flavor.
Here’s another idea you can think about to teach curing. Cure a pork tenderloin in the same wet brine. Smoke it (no net). Then slice it super thin on a slicer and add it to a sandwich (any creation) to enhance the flavor.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:21 pm to BigDropper
A bystander’s yawn >>> an idea
When it comes to what’s contagious
In all seriousness, that’s a fantastic post, looks like you really know what the hell you’re doing
When it comes to what’s contagious
In all seriousness, that’s a fantastic post, looks like you really know what the hell you’re doing
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:52 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
quote:An idea is generally considered more contagious than a yawn. While yawning is a well-documented behavioral phenomenon—roughly 40% to 60% of people catch a yawn, with higher susceptibility among close acquaintances—it is limited by physical presence and empathy levels. An idea, however, can spread across the globe instantly, influencing millions, and is not limited by social familiarity.
A bystander’s yawn >>> an idea
When it comes to what’s contagious
quote:Looks can be deceiving
In all seriousness, that’s a fantastic post, looks like you really know what the hell you’re doing
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:46 am to BigDropper
quote:notably, the equipment most often missing from an otherwise well equipped home kitchen is an accurate digital scale with tare function. I need to get a good one myself
so you just need to scale ingredients
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:45 am to cgrand
quote:Specifically one that has .01g precision if you want to cure food.
an accurate digital scale with tare function
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