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re: Smokey Bones building on Siegen Lane has sold for $2.3M

Posted on 10/7/08 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

I think there are good restaurants in both towns.


I agree...I have never once stated that BR lacks any good restaurants. However, I have asserted and continue to assert that given its location between the birthplaces of Cajun and Creole cuisines and its proximity to local ingredients that the city underachieves due to the populous' general support and excitement of chains and generic eating options.

The same 10-15 places get listed over an over on here by BR people...no doubt those may all be good, locally owned places, but for a metro of 800,000 thats an extremely low number...
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23144 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 2:48 pm to
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but for a metro of 800,000 thats an extremely low number...


BR has no were near 800k in the metro area...

At least I wouldn't think so.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 2:50 pm to
The Greater Baton Rouge population is approximately 770,037.

LINK
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86169 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 2:57 pm to


I will let the people who read this thread decide if it is I or you who is getting personal. And the link I posted is of the pwned variety...

It is my opinion that NOLA is a failed city. By any measure.This is a conclusion easy to reach. It is also widely and Internationally held.

It's restaurants are grand.As I said in my original post, INDISPENSIBLE. And emminently better than the humble, hard-working residents of Baton Rouge can aspire to. No one could compare the two. But you clearly exagerate the scarcity of quality restaurants in Baton Rouge. Thus a thread about a local Rib joint becomes an opportunity to bash not only a good, solid restaurant but the tastes of an entire city.

You drastically underestimate how vital the support of tourists are to the New Orleans restaurant scene. If you believe they would thrive on the backs of New Orleans residents alone, then you are just foolish. New Orleans is the exception, an artificial environment. instead of being so angry at other cities for not being New Orleans (a common problem w/New Orleanians), you should enjoy yourself and give all the rest of us humble citizens a rest from your self-congratulatory ridicule.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:12 pm to
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That stretch of Siegen with Hooter's, Olive Garden and Jack in the Box is a breeding ground for future chefs who will one day open chef-owned restaurants across the city.


i can't believe you left cheeburger cheeburger out of your list ..
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:17 pm to
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I will let the people who read this thread decide if it is I or you who is getting personal. And the link I posted is of the pwned variety...


quote:

This from a guy who gets paid to obfuscate and lie artfully.


Ummm...I think I will take my chances.

You once again avoided answering my argument. You have once again failed to acknowledge the fact that New Orleans sans the tourist supported restaurants has tons of high end options.

quote:

It is my opinion that NOLA is a failed city. By any measure.This is a conclusion easy to reach. It is also widely and Internationally held.


This is not an opinion held by the 12 million tourists who visited here last year (more than the rest of the state combined), the 1.1 million citizens in the metro area (still by far the largest city in LA), Trump and numerous other private investors, the NBA, the NFL, or shipping companies internationally (our port is running at 115% to what is was prior to Katrina).
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:18 pm to
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i can't believe you left cheeburger cheeburger out of your list ..


That is one hell of a restaurant row.
Posted by Gorilla knuts
in front of macintosh
Member since Oct 2007
5276 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:18 pm to
2.3mill is chicken shite money
Posted by eelsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
606 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:24 pm to
PIMP you touch on an excellent point - The constant wrangling from NOLA natives about how nothing anywhere else is as good as it is in NOLA. Well no shite! Replicating the unique blend of cultures, history and geography that has taken place over centuries is not exactly something that just sprouts out of the ground. Baton Rouge is what it is and New Orleans is what it is. Some people would never live in NOLA, some people would never live in BR. What aggravates the crap out of me are New Orleanians bitching and whining about Baton Rouge failing to replicate every great culinary tradition that was born in New Orleans when its not going to happen.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:24 pm to
yeah .. i live here and can tell you that this city is culinarily challenged .. that's why i spend half of my weekends in nawlins ..
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:27 pm to
Hoping for innovative new approaches to food by chef-owned and operated is not asking for the moon. Other cities can do it, and they do not have access to some of the world's best seafood.

No need to replicate New Orleans creole food...just have chef-owned places that actually think beyond spinach dip.

Is that really too much to ask for from a city of 800,000?
Posted by Towelie
America's Wang
Member since Aug 2007
19263 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Tiger Attorney


I agree with most of your opinions but you sure are full of yourself.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

i live here and can tell you that this city is culinarily challenged


Shhhhh....no one is supposed to admit that on here.

Try any good places lately in NOLA?
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4147 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:32 pm to
I think we get what your saying. I respect your opinion as well as YA's......but sometimes you two come off as sounding like pompous assholes.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

, I have asserted and continue to assert that given its location between the birthplaces of Cajun and Creole cuisines and its proximity to local ingredients that the city underachieves due to the populous' general support and excitement of chains and generic eating options.


Just want to point out that TJ Ribbs isn't a chain.

carry on
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:34 pm to
Sorry if it comes off like that Towelie...I assert my opinions and back them up with facts if at all possible.

I believe what I believe...and sometimes I get too busy to expound or post more thoughtfully. It happens.

What exactly on this thread shows that I am full of myself?

So far I was attacked personally due to the nature of my work and I have back up New Orleans (something I hold dear) when it was personally assaulted.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Just want to point out that TJ Ribbs isn't a chain.


Never said it was...I was pointing out the excitement over Cali Pizza or chain wine bars, etc.
Posted by eelsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
606 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:35 pm to
There are quality chefs and good restaurants in Baton Rouge - but they aren't as good or as numerous as the are in the NOLA Metro including the Northshore. And it isn't too much to ask - however, considering the factors that we are all aware of and have beaten to death on this board, those establishments have either not emerged or never gotten off their feet. Why is that? I think it has a lot to do with the lack of long term culinary tradition - maybe being between the Creole and Cajun culinary worlds led to some kind of culnary confusion here, just a theory, could be way off. I also think it is a bit of a tradition here in Baton Rouge to GO TO NEW ORLEANS pretty much just to eat. I know I do it. Why bother attempting to replicate something that's impossible to replicate?
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Just want to point out that TJ Ribbs isn't a chain.




Never said it was...I was pointing out the excitement over Cali Pizza or chain wine bars, etc.


Way to stay on topic.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20086 posts
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:38 pm to
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I think we get what your saying. I respect your opinion as well as YA's......but sometimes you two come off as sounding like pompous assholes


Fair enough...we are all not going to agree, but I think YA or I are quick to admit faults in the New Orleans food scene (BBQ for example)...that same attitude does not seem to be prevelant amongst BR posters.

The restaurant market is limited, but if BR people demanded better local places by avoiding chains and frequenting good local establishments that would ultimately encourage more good local establishments to open up and even take risks with innovative menus, etc. New Orleans lacked this until the early '80's for the most part.
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