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re: Sammich Owner Responds to Reviews

Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:33 pm to
Apparently, someone from here posted to him on Facebook and he responded. Much nicer post than his others, but it doesn't excuse his previous behavior. He gives he reason for it, which is valid as far as frustration regarding Yelp posts, but which in no way validates his responses.

This guy doesn't get it. He just really doesn't. He has to accept that people are going to write on social media rather than coming to him in person most of the time, if they're going to bring it to someone's attention, and deal with that accordingly or not at all. Apparently, the critiques to which he responds have no validity. Like I said, this guy is a fascinating study in how not to handle bad reviews.



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"Robert Murray: Your response to critique is eerily similar to these two: (photo of the bakery couple)
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The sammich: Robert, don't know if you've been to the Sammich but Emily's review was 5 stars. I believe in customer service and retention. I can't survive without repeat guests. When there is validity to a critique on Yelp, I actually do listen. I listen even better when concerns are brought to my attention in person so I can at least try to remedy the situation. NONE of the Yelpers brought their issues to our attention while in the Sammich and that is where my problem with Yelp and negative reviews reside. Come try us out. Ask for Mike, that's me."

This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39616 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:35 pm to
I have never read a thing on Yelp. Is this something that is really persuading foodies to go elsewhere? Do yall take this stuff seriously when considering a place to eat?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:43 pm to
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I have never read a thing on Yelp. Is this something that is really persuading foodies to go elsewhere? Do yall take this stuff seriously when considering a place to eat?


I never use Yelp locally, except to find basic info for restaurants without websites. I do use it a tiny bit when traveling, usually to see photos posted by diners who've eaten at restaurants recommended by people I know IRL.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7544 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:46 pm to
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Apparently, someone from here posted to him on Facebook and he responded. Much nicer post than his others, but it doesn't excuse his previous behavior. He gives he reason for it, which is valid as far as frustration regarding Yelp posts, but which in no way validates his responses.

This guy doesn't get it. He just really doesn't. He has to accept that people are going to write on social media rather than coming to him in person most of the time, if they're going to bring it to someone's attention, and deal with that accordingly or not at all. Apparently, the critiques to which he responds have no validity. Like I said, this guy is a fascinating study in how not to handle bad reviews.

Ok, so what do we do now? String him up?

I don't get the outrage.
Is the guy internet savy? No.
Will this hurt his business? Probably.

I just don't see how this would bother a non-involved party.

Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39616 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:47 pm to
I'm actually more inclined to go eat there now.
Posted by nikinik
Mid City
Member since Jan 2009
5733 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:55 pm to
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I think the problem is restaurant owners get very mad when people dine at their restaurant and dont point out issues. And I know very few people actually complain in person.


I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND that. In fact I had planned to go back and talk with him personally...BUT, when I mentioned my visit to a friend, she said..."You should see how he responded to my friend on Yelp when she complained." This made me go on Yelp and review his responses to reviewers. Once I saw that, I decided that I would not go talk to him in person. It was evident to me that he couldn't care less.

And yes, Yelp an suck sometimes, but there is ZERO reason EVER for a business owner to act the way that he did when getting honest feedback.

How many people in person (or otherwise) need to tell him that his prices are too high?

He doesn't care.

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But I am willing to bet most of us would rather be scolded in private than in public.


Sorry, but you don't always get this luxury as a business owner. Suck it up.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Fancy
Member since Feb 2015
60 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:57 pm to
So does Glassman own this joint or not
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:58 pm to
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I listen even better when concerns are brought to my attention in person so I can at least try to remedy the situation. NONE of the Yelpers brought their issues to our attention while in the Sammich and that is where my problem with Yelp and negative reviews reside.


So he's upset that he didn't get the chance to bullshite them to their face and explain away their honest dissatisfaction? The person who wrote the negative review probably won't be coming back anyways, so why not get a parting shot at them to make yourself feel better, eh Mike?

Give me a break. He's clearly prone to throwing a childish conniption fit on social media when anything is posted that not's a glowing review. All he does is 100% lose that person as a potential repeat customer, alienate future customers, and make himself look like an a-hole business owner.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47541 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:59 pm to
Like I said, this fascinates me. I'm not angry. I'm never going there and I probably wouldn't have before. I'm not a lost customer.


For me, a client who is dissatisfied is an opportunity and a challenge. Not all of them can be saved, but we try anyway.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 1:37 am
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47541 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

never use Yelp locally, except to find basic info for restaurants without websites. I do use it a tiny bit when traveling, usually to see photos posted by diners who've eaten at restaurants recommended by people I know IRL.



That's pretty much the extent of my use of Yelp and Urbanspoon and I can't recall the last time I looked at either. I usually look at US, if I'm looking. I probably haven't been to Yelp 5 times, total.
Posted by nikinik
Mid City
Member since Jan 2009
5733 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:01 pm to
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When there is validity to a critique on Yelp, I actually do listen.


So the underside of the table ruining clothing isn't a valid critique. He didn't care at all about that.

And I work my arse off, and when I have a couple of hours to go grab some beers and food after work, I don't want to spend it lecturing a business owner about his unsanded tables. And like I said, I had every intention of addressing it with him not on Yelp until I saw his unprofessional responses to other reviewers.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47541 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:03 pm to
I see that he gave 10% of sales for a day last week to Hogs. Nice gesture.
Posted by nikinik
Mid City
Member since Jan 2009
5733 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

The person who wrote the negative review probably won't be coming back anyways, so why not get a parting shot at them to make yourself feel better, eh Mike?


I actually put in my review that I would go back for appetizers and drinks because they do those well, and it was a good value. Oh well.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
824 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:09 pm to
This guy is in the service industry and the only way to handle these types of issues is in a professional manner. Yelp and other sites (including social media) are not going away and people will continue to "blast away" from behind a keyboard. If the guy can't handle dealing with the public in this way, he needs to ignore it or hire someone to do it for him.
Or maybe he doesn't like making money.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1926 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:11 pm to
That's who I was thinking of, Amy's husband.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20450 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:20 pm to
How does...

quote:

I listen even better when concerns are brought to my attention in person so I can at least try to remedy the situation.


equal...

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he's upset that he didn't get the chance to bullshite them to their face


Maybe he would've given them a better sandwich, probably not, but don't we always bash people on here when the have a negative experience somewhere, and run here to bitch about it vs. telling someone in person what their issue was?

The guy sounds like he can be a dick, but he's got a point. I usually only read sites like Yelp to look at a total score a place has...if it's in the upper 80's/90's it's probably good. Anything less than 80, and it probably sucks. Most of the reviews I read on Yelp sound like they're written by huge tools.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72101 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:26 pm to
Consumers are just cowardly these days. They run and hide behind Yelp, this board, call Tom Fitzmorris etc.

Yes, the guy handled it poorly, but I dont see how people cannot just ask for the manager while at the place of business to give them a chance to make something right. That's what they are there for. If they are an arse and dont remedy your problem, then take to Yelp or wherever and blast them.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

How does...


I listen even better when concerns are brought to my attention in person so I can at least try to remedy the situation.


equal...


he's upset that he didn't get the chance to bullshite them to their face


Because I assume that someone who takes to social media in the manner in which he did (confrontationally) is likely to be too proud of his food to truly address concerns if they were brought up in person rather than online. Seems like he would likely get defensive and try to explain to the customer why they're wrong in their complaint, rather than be introspective and figure out what he could so differently.

All an assumption of course, as I do not know this man personally. Just making an observation off of what little "interaction" I've seen him have with customers.

quote:

Maybe he would've given them a better sandwich, probably not, but don't we always bash people on here when they have a negative experience somewhere, and run here to bitch about it vs. telling someone in person what their issue was?


Who's to say that the person didn't bring up to an owner / manager in addition to posting it on here?
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Consumers are just cowardly these days. They run and hide behind Yelp, this board, call Tom Fitzmorris etc.



Don't most people who write reviews and criticize things do so on their personal Facebook, Yelp, Instagram, etc. that shows their real name? Not exactly "hiding." Unless you want to amend your statement to just cover message boards like this one.

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Yes, the guy handled it poorly, but I dont see how people cannot just ask for the manager while at the place of business to give them a chance to make something right. That's what they are there for. If they are an arse and dont remedy your problem, then take to Yelp or wherever and blast them.


Where is anyone "blasting" this place? Did you read the OP's review. It was pretty level-headed and honest I thought.

Here's another disapproving customer's review from Yelp:

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I went to Sammich hoping for much more. Upon reviewing the menu, everything sounded delish. The restaurant is open and airy and the staff is very nice. We had the duck fat fries which tasted like regular fries and the flash fried escargot had a sweet taste to them. Both the lobster and Korean bbq sandwiches had an exceedingly sweet taste to them. It was also rather pricey. The menu sounded delicious, the execution was lass than tasty.


To that the owner in turn responded: "YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! "

Now, who's doing the "blasting" again?
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29221 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:44 pm to
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So the underside of the table ruining clothing isn't a valid critique.


To be honest, it's not to me, but I do see your point.

Anyway, check this FB page out. This makes Sammich look classy. A new place is going into the location. Hard to believe this is even real, but it happened right down the street from me.

Savannah Oyster House


Here is another place close to me. The guy gets overwhelmingly good reviews and acts like a complete arse when they are not.

Wiley's Championship BBQ
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 3:51 pm
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