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re: Salted and peppered steaks hours before cooking

Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17080 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:50 pm to
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Not nuts. Dumb. Get a steak. Season it. Cool it. Eat it. It’s that simple

Sous vide and sear method requires no rest.
Posted by Datfish
Member since Sep 2018
794 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:17 am to
If I'm searing meat on super hot cast iron (I get mine really hot), I'll add black pepper after the searing process. I was told by a respected but not famous cook a long time ago that if you do burn pepper, it can develop a bitter flavor. I have no science to back up this statement.

Either way, I believe adding pepper on a steak before you cook it does not affect the internal flavor of the meat very much, so I just add it after. I don't think it changes the outcome very much, I'm just being careful.

Any other situation where I'm not searing meat on a really hot cast iron, I add it before the cook.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86401 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:54 am to
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Don't put pepper on steaks prior to cooking


Amazing the downvotes. That many people do not know what pepper is and what will happen under high heat


If salted for hours, you will probably need to dry the steaks for best results. there will probably be standing moisture on the surfaces.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24538 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:10 am to
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But don't come on here acting like people are nuts for doing it a different way than you do.


It is kind of his schtick.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25763 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Why let your food get cold?


It doesn't get cold by letting it sit for 10 minutes. It's still very warm and all the flavor is there.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:28 pm to
Lol. Yeah, Ok. I prefer my steak hot and it’s very juicy straight from the grill/pan. Do you think it’s going to get more juicy letting it get warm? SMH
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:30 pm to
So salt it for hours to draw OUT the moisture? That makes perfect sense.
Posted by Original Big Dawg
Member since Jan 2019
91 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 5:54 pm to
i worked at a greek diner where this old dude would put the breakfast sirloins in plastic bags of milk ketchup salad dressing and his secret spices and let them sit for a day to 2 days and just give them a shake of salt and pepper when they got cooked. it was crazy looking but they tasted ok and im sure im not the only person whos seen psycho methods
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25763 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 5:56 pm to
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Do you think it’s going to get more juicy letting it get warm? SMH


If you just did a rudimentary search online the science behind it backs it up. World famous chefs that cook circles around you would say the same.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49617 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:27 pm to
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Lol. Yeah, Ok. I prefer my steak hot and it’s very juicy straight from the grill/pan. Do you think it’s going to get more juicy letting it get warm? SMH




Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10502 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:27 pm to
People have different ways of cooking everything. Why is cooking a steak so controversial? Cook it the way you like it. Everyone on here acting like they are master chefs that reached nirvana and know the secret to a steak.
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
1503 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:38 pm to
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Don't put pepper on steaks prior to cooking

Ever heard of steak au poivre?
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:04 pm to
Sure. Some people marinate the steak in iItalian dressing. It’s all edible, but why?
Posted by Original Big Dawg
Member since Jan 2019
91 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:10 pm to
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People have different ways of cooking everything. Why is cooking a steak so controversial? Cook it the way you like it. Everyone on here acting like they are master chefs that reached nirvana and know the secret to a steak.



the first time i had a wildly overseasoned well done steak it shook my whole 'med rare and nothing but salt pepper and garlic' reality, i loved it. i eat a ton of steaks and steak gravy i pretty much like everything except a restaurant style (med rare / minimal) with steak sauce added. i dont like A1 thats the only steak ive found that i prohibitively dislike
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28871 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:17 pm to
Nah, joeleblanc from TigerDroppings.com knows more about cooking steaks than many of the world renowned chefs and grillmasters around the world. They're all wrong and he's right.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49617 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:41 pm to
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People have different ways of cooking everything. Why is cooking a steak so controversial? Cook it the way you like it. Everyone on here acting like they are master chefs that reached nirvana and know the secret to a steak.




I cook steaks plenty of different ways. Two constants for me are no pepper because it burns and the bitterness is discernible to me. I let the steak rest a few minutes to redistribute the juice and relax a bit. My steak has never gotten cold in the small period of time because I found this new stuff on Amazon called aluminum foil to cover it will.

I like to leave it out for whatever half hour or four hours and salt about 30 minutes before.

That’s my standard way to cook a steak.

Now having said that I’ve also been cooking steaks for 45 years or more and I’ve cooked every imaginable way. Italian dressing marinade, soy sauce marinade, garlic, Tony’s, hot and fast, slow and low, rubbed with mustard, olive oil probably everything except peanut butter. I buy the 1/2” to 4” filets, ribeyes, t bones, porterhouse or my favorite NY Strip. Bone in, boneless, whole filets, ribeyes etc...

I’ve let them sit out for 30 minutes to 6 hours or opened the icebox, peeled the plastic off and tossed on grill. I remember a time I even tossed three ribeyes on in one big frozen block and once they warmed up I pried them apart and finished.

Never had a bad one. Some certainly better than others. Some cheaper, some middle and some prime. Whatever.

If I grill you a steak I’ll cook it anyway you want. I don’t give a shite about yours as long as you make the call. And if you cook one for me I’ll eat it anyway you serve it with no complaints even if you drop it on the patio. I’ll brush off the dog hairs, pour a glass of wine to make me bumble around like Boris Yeltsin and enjoy my dinner.

Want to try a good one? Get a 3” centercut filet, put a knife hole in the middle and make a pocket then stuff 2 or 3 raw oysters in there and grill or cast iron until medium rare.

Or cook the thing to well done for all I care.

This is a tomahawk I cooked last week
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77734 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:03 pm to
Too many ingredients for the marinated steak in my opinion. Salt, pepper and olive oil is the way to go.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30178 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 5:24 am to
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Why is cooking a steak so controversial?


Not just steaks.
Lot of “know it alls” makes for lots of controversy.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 5:53 am to
Thanks! Lol. But no, really. It’s a steak. Again, it’s not rocket science. If you enjoy a cold dry steak, good for you. I don’t.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28871 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 6:17 am to
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If you enjoy a cold dry steak, good for you


I don't. Since you like to keep so much moisture on your steak why don't you just dip it in water before putting it on the grill? Super moist!

Seriously, you're either stupid or one of the worst trolls ever. You're right, it's not rocket science, but common sense would tell you that if you want to achieve a sear on something you need less moisture/water. If the steak has any decent amount of marbling in it then you aren't going to dry it out.

And I'll also say it again, it's possible you cook a great steak. I hope you do and that you love it. Stop acting like you're way is the absolute only way. It's asinine.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 6:45 am
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