Started By
Message

re: PuttaDaForkDown v2.0

Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:41 am to
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:41 am to
This may be a dumb question but here goes.... Ok I know muscle weighs more than fat and so if you gain muscle you won't be losing weight, but what should I expect from strictly cardio workouts. I haven't done any weight training... the only work outs I have done are an ellipical and riding my bike. I do imagine that riding my bike may be building muscle especially since it is a giant heavy fixed gear cruiser and getting that fricker up a hill is quite a feat!! Guess I just didn't expect to be building enough muscle to keep me from losing weight doing these things
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Really, not terrible advice. I weigh myself every day because it keeps me more accountable. I wish I'd done measurements before I started.




for people who plan to hit the weights and not just diet. It is the best advice!

Last year in march or so i was 157 lbs (im 5'7) 33yrs old, and had a pot belly, and love handles...i started my strict diet of carb cycling... while upping my weights to 5 days a week in which .i was already doing a couple days a week.

By july i was 153lbs (lost a total of 4lbs) But i had no love handles, chest and arm definititin.. and abs.

For the first few weeks i would hop on the scale and get so frustrated because i wasnt losing weight. Even though i was on a strict diet and working out. But i had took a before pic. And by the time my july beach trip came and i looked in the mirror i was just like holy shite! I had only lost 4lbs but now had freaking abs. The scale doesnt tell the whole story
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11273 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:50 am to
How long have you been at this? I will let others answer the cardio vs weights question, but I can say that my weight loss was very punctuated. For most of last year (after the initial large drop), I would maintain the same weight for like a month, then drop another 5 lbs in a week. I never had the consistent 1-2 lbs per week, even though that's what I would end up averaging when time vs weight loss was calculated. It was always maintain...maintain...maintain...BOOM. It would be frustrating to go weeks without a change in the scale, but I finally just accepted that this was my body's pattern.

I would have a lot of people (IRL, not on here) tell me that muscle weighs more than fat, so that must be why I wasn't losing, but that argument isn't very relevant (IMO) when we still have a significant amount of weight to lose. Your body won't just convert your excess 50 lbs of fat into muscle weight, keeping you at the high weight as your "healthy" weight forever. It might make sense when you're 5 lbs overweight, but not when it's higher.

What is your diet like? Are you just doing low cal? Or something else? If you go awhile without losing, it would be smart to evaluate what you're eating. Your body may get too used to the reduced calorie level. If that's the case, you can shake things up by cutting carbs & increasing fat/protein, or a fat fast, or IF, or one of the other things mentioned on here. That is often enough to kick start loss again.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:56 am to
I have been at this since the first day of Lent so about a month now. What I have done and lost in that time is really remarkable (17 lbs) so can't really complain...although I feel like a lot of it was weight I put on really quickly during mardi gras weekend which is why it fell off so quick.

My usual routine is waking up and doing some kind of cardio with a stair stepper thing or elliptical which according to what I'm suing burns about 200 calories, and I'm riding the bike around a pretty hilly windy bike path in the afternoons which burns 250-300 cal.

I have been calorie counting and sticking to hard boiled eggs for breakfast, lean meats like fish and chicken for dinner and tuna for lunch. I have cut out week day drinking entirely and allow myself to enjoy a few on the weekend.

Right now my calorie counting app says I should be at 2,000 calories a day to lose 2 lbs a week. I am usually way below during the week and right about the 2,000 cal during the weekend.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:05 am to
quote:

This may be a dumb question but here goes.... Ok I know muscle weighs more than fat and so if you gain muscle you won't be losing weight, but what should I expect from strictly cardio workouts. I haven't done any weight training... the only work outs I have done are an ellipical and riding my bike. I do imagine that riding my bike may be building muscle especially since it is a giant heavy fixed gear cruiser and getting that fricker up a hill is quite a feat!! Guess I just didn't expect to be building enough muscle to keep me from losing weight doing these things



First thing... when you started and the weight was flying off. What have you changed?
Are you eating the same amount of calories today that you were when the weight was falling off?
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:06 am to
And yes the bike will build your leg muscles.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11273 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:16 am to
Yeah, those app predictions for weight loss rate are kind of crap. It's very normal for you to lose a ton at once, then have it majorly taper off as your body adjusts. It's frustrating, and you feel like you're doing everything wrong, but try to just ride it out and stay the course. You'll continue to lose. Think about how amazing you'll feel this time next year. Even if you only lose 3-4 lbs a month going forward, you'll be at your goal this time next year.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139885 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:33 am to
quote:

I have been at this since the first day of Lent so about a month now. What I have done and lost in that time is really remarkable (17 lbs) so can't really complain...although I feel like a lot of it was weight I put on really quickly during mardi gras weekend which is why it fell off so quick. My usual routine is waking up and doing some kind of cardio with a stair stepper thing or elliptical which according to what I'm suing burns about 200 calories, and I'm riding the bike around a pretty hilly windy bike path in the afternoons which burns 250-300 cal. I have been calorie counting and sticking to hard boiled eggs for breakfast, lean meats like fish and chicken for dinner and tuna for lunch. I have cut out week day drinking entirely and allow myself to enjoy a few on the weekend. Right now my calorie counting app says I should be at 2,000 calories a day to lose 2 lbs a week. I am usually way below during the week and right about the 2,000 cal during the weekend.


Deja vu Yeller huh?


scott8811 go look at my posts in this thread starting March 1 and you can read how I am doing exactly as you are. But my very very secret is to listen to Ole Yeller and Hulkk they have guided me through this masterfully. My only exception is I do not go above 1500 cals a day I have a cheat meal sometime Sunday (exception of dinner) and eat salads for dinner every night.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:36 am
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:42 am to
lol yep... and i am in no way an expert... or perfect. I fall off the wagon lol. especially during holidays. But i have talked to enough fitness "experts" and read enough information on all of this that i know pretty much what works and what doesnt (for myself)

I am thinking one of 2 things for scott

1- He has lost alot of weight and eating the same amount of caloires since day 1 so his calories need to be adjusted because his tdee is lower now.

2- He is under eating with all the cardio and putting his body in starvation mode and needs to add some calories of high protein low carbs to jumpstart his metabolism and get it back going
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139885 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:45 am to
I am still probably in starvation mode but my protein is so up that I think it is just not making me hungry and I am not eating.

But I am content with 1-2 lbs a week after the massive dump initially if I keep on keeping on.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:59 am to
quote:

But I am content with 1-2 lbs a week after the massive dump initially if I keep on keeping on.




1-2 lbs is all you need to lose a week. and if you are in that deep of a calorie maintenance then enjoy a cheat meal or 2. That gives you sanity. And one meal wont ruin a diet.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:28 am to
yes... and I've stuck to roughly the same meals
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:45 am to
quote:

yes... and I've stuck to roughly the same meals


read my post above about the 2 reasons i suspect
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:50 am to
256.6/233.6/200

Thirty-day goal exceeded. Transitioning from Medifast to WW.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:54 am to
Ok, well I don't think it's reason 1 because my calorie count on a normal day of doing this is about 700-800 after I've added up all my calories and subtracted from the exercise. That's with my calculated calorie budget being about 2,000.

That being said reason 2 you mentioned seems like something. I didn't know it was possible for my calorie count to be too low. Can you maybe expand on this if you can... As mentioned by the time I have factored in all food (which is typicaly boiled eggs, plain tuna, and baked fish w/ little bit of plain noodles for sanity) I am netting about 700 a day. Is that too low.... as mentioned in earlier posts I usually do one 15 minute short cardio workout in the morning then a 30 min-hour long bike ride after work. On weekends its not unusual for us to bike over 10 miles in a day, and I've noticed I gain about 1-2 lbs over the weekend. Before I chalked it up to slight cheating (I actually allow myself to have a few drinks and eat out but try to keep the restaurant meals reasonable) I chalked the 1-2 lbs up to slight deviation from my diet but maybe after reading reason 2 I burned so much on the bike that I'm not eating enough?? One day of biking will usually burn a little over 1,000 cal according to the app I use.....

Btw thank you for your advice so far and upcoming help... this thread has been an amazing find.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:13 pm to
When you eat too few calories your body will go into starvation mode, and store every piece of fat it can for energy. I ran into this problem a few years ago, and thought peole were crazy telling me to eat more calories. Until i did... i added a couple hundred calories on days i was working out... and then started to lose weight. When you add calories add lean protein. With all the biking you are doing id feel safe to say that you need more calories for the energy you are consuming.

how old are you and how much you weigh? Height?

If male you need AT LEAST 1500 calories
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:35 pm to
Makes sense.. just never thought of that.
I'm 28 yo male.. 5'10" 248 lbs
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:45 pm to
yes man.. you def need more calories. Keep doing what you are doing but add a couple hundred calories of lean protein.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:47 pm to
will do!! Thanks so much man
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:06 pm to
no prob! you were doing just like i was. thinking less calories = more loss.... and you will at first but then body hits that starvation mode and stores the fat. Its a tough concept to learn. and you will constantly be playing with your diet/macros to fit your body. Always something to learn, and its a daily grind. But so worth it! Goodluck
first pageprev pagePage 318 of 468Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram