re: Parish Brewing Co: Dr. Hoptagon Bottle Release Wednesday

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I really wish they would release these standard beers in 500ml or 6 packs.

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Hoptagon isn't a standard release beer.

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I like to support Parish and buy lots of their beer, but I do pass it up plenty of times when I can get similar beers from similar breweries of similar or better quality for less.

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Completely agree. I liked the Parish FIPA, but I typically pass it up bc of the price point.

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didn't go back for seconds, which, IMO, I attribute to bad carbonation levels.

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this too...

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It'll probably run $16 at calandros.

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Yep, best place to buy is at The Beverage Store, which is usually about $1 less on everything.

ill pay $14 when their bourbon barreled grand reserve comes out. $14 for a black ipa, no thanks

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So far argument's sake, a 750ml of Stone would be $8.63 if we assume a bomber price of $7.50 and everything scales in linearly, which it probably doesn't.

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It absolutely doesn't. Does anyone really think Parish pays the same amount for ingredients as Stone? Stone has huge contracts for their ingredients and pays a lot less per pound than smaller guys. The scales of efficiency are way different between those two breweries.

Parish used roughly 3 pounds of dry hops per barrel. That's a lot of hops, and contributes a lot to the expense.

I'm ok with the price of Dr Hoptagon. I also think it'll sell better than FIPA did. The brewery is selling it @$12/bottle too.
For them being a small scale brewery, I think the price is on point honestly. They are working around the clock there. Should be starting to run night shifts soon. They are booming. I hope they continue to grow and as a result, prices may eventually come down slightly.

You can't compare them to Stone or other larger companies. Stone can put out more, at a faster pace, for a cheaper price.

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He said the distributor held the Pumpkinator in the warehouse, I guess at Saint Arnold's request.

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Lafayette has this for the first time ever. I guess no one told Marcelo's they couldn't sell it until next week. I bought 4 bottles last night.

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shite I find stuff at cuban for $2-3 less than calandros

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yeah, calandro's is really bad with limited releases.

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Pretty sure he's talking about the cost to a brewery of putting a beer in 750s as opposed to bombers scaling linearly.

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Yep, it was from this-

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yeah I don't think people realize that a 750ml bottle is 15% more volume than a bomber, which is 22oz.

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I think as a whole the entire beer market is over-priced and becoming over-saturated. It's like a craft version of the real estate/housing bubble.

I was told yesterday that there are over 70 breweries in San Diego now. I just don't see how markets can support that.

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Parish used roughly 3 pounds of dry hops per barrel. That's a lot of hops, and contributes a lot to the expense.

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I calculate approx $0.60 per bottle. Someone check my math because I'm no good at it.

Assuming $10/pound for hops (might be high, but could be spot on for a small brewery, I'm going off of homebrewer prices), that's $30 per barrel. A barrel is 31 gallons which equals 117,348 ml. Assuming hop absorption is around 12 oz. beer/ounce of leaf hops, that leaves us with 100,313 ml, or 133 750ml bottles worth. 30/133 = .23.

So we have $0.23 for straight materials. Let's WAG it and assume if we multiply by 2.5 we cover delivery, storage, and disposal. That puts us at 58 cents a bottle for dry hops.

And just so you know, I'm only crunching numbers to kill time between loading times and I was curious. If people are waiting on the delivery truck to pay $12/beer, then it's priced correctly, possibly even lower than it should be.