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re: Oven Roux, Made at 350 degrees F (photos)

Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:31 pm to
When I'm making 5 gallons of fried chicken gumbo, I use the oil for the roux, so I'm not cooking the roux while frying. However, I'm chopping chicken, trinity, green onions, garlic, sausage, simmering bones in stock, straining that and sometimes, I squeeze in a shower and blow dry my hair. I've been known to run to the grocery as well.

I don't think I've ever used only one large onion in gumbo in my life, but my knife skills are fine.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:31 pm to
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Are we that lazy that we need 4 hours to "do nothing?" I think we're really working hard here to avoid stirring a pot.


Jesus frick dude I'm trying to be civil here, and you're really pushing my limits.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:32 pm to
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I don't think anyone will argue a 4 hour oven roux is time efficient.



If I need to cut the grass, wash my car, and make a gumbo all in an afternoon, I'd argue it's very time efficient.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 2:54 pm to
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I think we're really working hard here to avoid stirring a pot.


More like hardly working here by not stirring a pot.
Posted by rodnreel
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 5:43 pm to
MD You might experiment with a stir every 30 to 45 minutes. I am thinking opening your oven every 15 minutes might cause your oven to be at the 350 degree temp. 50% of the time or less of the total 5 hour period.

I have a constant read thermometer and experimented with my gas grill. What I found is my temp would drop from 350 to 150-175 degrees every time I opened the pit. It would take several minutes to come back to 350.
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 6:01 pm to
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But 4 hrs of prep work? It seems much more time efficient to do your prep work first (should be 20-25 minutes max), then spend 45 minutes or so making your roux. Unless I am bad at math...

Well if you are bad at math, this is not the best evidence. I've never made a 4 hour oven roux. Seems like an hour and a half at most, so I guess i've been doing it at higher temps. I also use peanut oil rather than vegetable oil, so maybe that makes a difference?

I also usually take longer than 20-25 minutes for prep work. Maybe I'm slow, but the prep work usually consumes 2 drinks: either a whiskey and a beer or 2 beers, but rarely 2 whiskeys.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 6:16 pm to
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MD You might experiment with a stir every 30 to 45 minutes. I am thinking opening your oven every 15 minutes might cause your oven to be at the 350 degree temp. 50% of the time or less of the total 5 hour period.


I think this is a good point and I'm not stirring as often any more. Thanks for sharing this suggestion.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:31 am to
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Thanks for sharing this suggestion.


yep, it's nice when people actually try to be helpful.

I'm also interested in the oil removal process. Did MD ever explain this?
Posted by al_cajun
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:34 am to
Has anyone tried not stirring at all?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:40 am to
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Has anyone tried not stirring at all?




I'm gonna give it a try Friday night I think, and I'll post results if no one else has by then.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:40 am to
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1. Chop Trinity (20 minutes)
2. Cook roux (45 minutes)


These are on the high end. I chop all veggies and sausage faster than 20 minutes and a roux in 10-15.
Posted by al_cajun
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:47 am to
Awesome, I am interested to see how it comes out.
Posted by Darla Hood
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:47 am to
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Are we that lazy that we need 4 hours to "do nothing?"
Yes, I am.

I do this in two hours and get it to this color:





I can use that time to brown the chicken and the sausage, if I'm going to do either or both. And peruse Tigerdroppings or whatever.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28612 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:51 am to
I think this is all pretty cool and could be useful in some circumstances.

With that said, for my enjoyment, the best roux for gumbo is made from frying my chicken in a little bit of oil and then building the roux from that. Adds so much great flavor.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:54 am to
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I can use that time to brown the chicken and the sausage, if I'm going to do either or both.


See that’s the main thing I don’t like about oven roux. I like to make my roux out of the oil I browned the protein in.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:09 am to
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This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 9:17 am
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