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Oven Roux, Made at 350 degrees F (photos)
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:27 pm
Some folks here make their roux in the oven at either 350 or 400 degrees F. I am a part of the 350 crowd, thinking that although it might take longer, it is almost impossible to burn a roux at 350 degrees.
Anyhow, I decided to record an experiment and to document the progression of a 350 oven roux.
I started with flour, vegetable oil, my 10 inch cast iron skillet, a room temperature oven and (as you will see) a lot of time on my hands.
I added 1 cup of vegetable oil to the skillet.
and 1 cup of flour
Mixed well
and placed into my room temperature oven on the middle rack.
Then I set the timer to 15 minutes and turned on the oven.
The oven came up to temperature within 12 minutes and I am sure the skillet did, just a little after that.
Then I pulled the skillet at the end of 15 minutes, took a photo, stirred the skillet and returned it to the oven with timer set at 15 minutes.
Time intervals for photographing and stirring were 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, 90, 105, 120, 180, 240, and 300 minutes
Here are the photos, showing the slow progression of my roux.
0 time (above)
15 minutes (above)
30 minutes (above)
45 minutes (above)
60 minutes (1 hour - above)
75 minutes (above)
90 minutes (above)
105 minutes (above)
120 minutes (2 hours - above)
180 minutes (3 hours - above)
240 minutes (4 hours - above)
300 minutes (5 hours - above)
The roux was pretty dark at 5 hours, but I was surprised when I drained away the oil, after allowing the flour to settle for maybe 10 minutes. This photo was taken at 315 minutes. Nice dark brown. Very thick - really nutty taste, with no hint of burnt flour. (photo below)
I discarded the oil and put the roux in the refrigerator, planning to either use it or freeze it within the next few days. (photo below)
So what do I think now? Obviously, 350 will make a pretty good roux although it takes a while. The upside is that if you don't stir it, the roux takes minimum involvement to make. I am uncertain if it even needs stirring as it cooks. I may do 400 degrees F next to see if it will be a lot quicker. My belief is that it will be significantly quicker.
Thanks for looking
edited to add - I could have done this with maybe 1/3 the 1:1 oil to flour ratio I started with.
Anyhow, I decided to record an experiment and to document the progression of a 350 oven roux.
I started with flour, vegetable oil, my 10 inch cast iron skillet, a room temperature oven and (as you will see) a lot of time on my hands.
I added 1 cup of vegetable oil to the skillet.
and 1 cup of flour
Mixed well
and placed into my room temperature oven on the middle rack.
Then I set the timer to 15 minutes and turned on the oven.
The oven came up to temperature within 12 minutes and I am sure the skillet did, just a little after that.
Then I pulled the skillet at the end of 15 minutes, took a photo, stirred the skillet and returned it to the oven with timer set at 15 minutes.
Time intervals for photographing and stirring were 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, 90, 105, 120, 180, 240, and 300 minutes
Here are the photos, showing the slow progression of my roux.
0 time (above)
15 minutes (above)
30 minutes (above)
45 minutes (above)
60 minutes (1 hour - above)
75 minutes (above)
90 minutes (above)
105 minutes (above)
120 minutes (2 hours - above)
180 minutes (3 hours - above)
240 minutes (4 hours - above)
300 minutes (5 hours - above)
The roux was pretty dark at 5 hours, but I was surprised when I drained away the oil, after allowing the flour to settle for maybe 10 minutes. This photo was taken at 315 minutes. Nice dark brown. Very thick - really nutty taste, with no hint of burnt flour. (photo below)
I discarded the oil and put the roux in the refrigerator, planning to either use it or freeze it within the next few days. (photo below)
So what do I think now? Obviously, 350 will make a pretty good roux although it takes a while. The upside is that if you don't stir it, the roux takes minimum involvement to make. I am uncertain if it even needs stirring as it cooks. I may do 400 degrees F next to see if it will be a lot quicker. My belief is that it will be significantly quicker.
Thanks for looking
edited to add - I could have done this with maybe 1/3 the 1:1 oil to flour ratio I started with.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:38 pm to MeridianDog
MD! That looks great. I will need to try this technique. Look forward to your next post at 400 degrees.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:42 pm to MeridianDog
Looks great but why do you have to freeze it? Should be a pretty good shelf life.
Thanks for taking the pics
Thanks for taking the pics
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:43 pm to MeridianDog
I ain’t got the patience for a five hour roux.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:47 pm to NOLATiger71
Next post at 400
(edited)
I may be gone for a while. However, I will be back. Probably after you guys decide I died or something.
(edited)
I may be gone for a while. However, I will be back. Probably after you guys decide I died or something.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 2:59 am
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:48 pm to BigPerm30
It's not 5 active hours.
It's basically like a sous vide roux.
It's basically like a sous vide roux.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:51 pm to BigPerm30
quote:
ain’t got the patience for a five hour roux.
Then don't do it. The post wasn't intended to try to convince you to do anything.
Also, I'm not all that sure many folks here do a roux that brown dark.
My biggest intent was to see how dark I could take it and not burn it.
I understand Paul Prudhomme did his in 10 minutes with a screaming hot skillet.
Peace
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:57 pm to MeridianDog
In theory it seems like you wouldn’t have to stir. Everything should be at 350... skillet, oil, flour
The purpose of stirring the roux in the traditional method is because the skillet is much much hotter and you don’t want just some of the flour on it for too long (I realize you probably know this, just typing out loud)
But I may be wrong
The purpose of stirring the roux in the traditional method is because the skillet is much much hotter and you don’t want just some of the flour on it for too long (I realize you probably know this, just typing out loud)
But I may be wrong
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:58 pm to MeridianDog
quote:
Then don't do it.
Sorry. It must have came off the wrong way. No disrespect. I think it’s pretty came cool. I just couldn’t do it.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:59 pm to MeridianDog
I’ve made it and had it finish up like the last pic without stirring that often.
Basically once every hour or hour and a half.
But this was awesome. Thanks Dog.
Basically once every hour or hour and a half.
But this was awesome. Thanks Dog.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:00 pm to MeridianDog
Cool, to save time I get mine started on the stove then transfer to oven to finish up, put in at kickoff, stir every commercial and by halftime it is ready , mix in trinity , stock and proteins and gumbo is ready by the fourth quarter
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:02 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I agree on the no stirring, at least at 350. Not so sure about 400 but it could be the same for the higher temp, too
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:04 pm to BigPerm30
quote:
I ain’t got the patience for a five hour roux.
Neither do I. That roux can be made over a burner in 20 minutes or less in that quantity. When I make my roux for 5 gallons of gumbo it takes me under 1 hour for a roux that dark and I'm talking about 4 cups of oil and flour each.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:06 pm to MeridianDog
quote:
I agree on the no stirring, at least at 350. Not so sure about 400 but it could be the same for the higher temp, too
Agreed. I would be more nervous at 400
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:08 pm to BRgetthenet
BRget
Yes, I was trying to keep conditions as close to standard as I could, interested mostly in the color progression. If doing it tomorrow, I would likely not stir it at all. Just not sure about the 350, but a little scared of 400 because of the tendency of flour to actually burn at 400 degrees F. IMO, it is still difficult to burn 350 degree flour, just takes forever to get it that dark. $00 would get there a lot quicker, and might burn. I don't know.
This would be a good way to make 5 pounds or roux at a time and freeze it in plastic bags - a two month supply for some folks.
Yes, I was trying to keep conditions as close to standard as I could, interested mostly in the color progression. If doing it tomorrow, I would likely not stir it at all. Just not sure about the 350, but a little scared of 400 because of the tendency of flour to actually burn at 400 degrees F. IMO, it is still difficult to burn 350 degree flour, just takes forever to get it that dark. $00 would get there a lot quicker, and might burn. I don't know.
This would be a good way to make 5 pounds or roux at a time and freeze it in plastic bags - a two month supply for some folks.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:11 pm to gumbo2176
quote:
Neither do I. That roux can be made over a burner in 20 minutes or less in that quantity. When I make my roux for 5 gallons of gumbo it takes me under 1 hour for a roux that dark and I'm talking about 4 cups of oil and flour each.
Why do so many people respond this way? Do you want a pat on the back?
I bet the active time is less for the oven roux then your traditional roux. Do you disagree?
I like to know that I get a consistent result every time
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:13 pm to gumbo2176
quote:
That roux can be made over a burner in 20 minutes or less in that quantity.
Maybe you could agree that I can't do it in 20 minutes and take that many photos at a set time interval. That was one of my intents in doing this - to experience the color transformation and to see if the roux would burn - something I have said would not happen at 350 degrees. I'm not going to go back and read what I wrote, but that is what I intended to say.
I too can cook a roux in maybe 10 minutes. Taking photos while doing it would be a pain.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:16 pm to MeridianDog
I approve. Much more drinking time
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:18 pm to MeridianDog
Good looking roux, but that’s a lot of sugar for a nickel! I just stir mine like crazy and have it done in 15 min or so
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:19 pm to Rouge
quote:
I approve. Much more drinking time
A 24 beer Roux!
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