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re: NOLA restaurants that are keeping their vaccine mandates despite the City dropping it
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:58 am to zippyputt
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:58 am to zippyputt
I mean, they have managed to stay in business through the hard rock collapse (one block away) and the pandemic.
it was actually the last meal I had before the pandemic shutdown.
I have not been back there though.
Its an ultra-liberal hipster clientele base so it wouldn't surprise me if they are fine.
Its just funny to me.
it was actually the last meal I had before the pandemic shutdown.
I have not been back there though.
Its an ultra-liberal hipster clientele base so it wouldn't surprise me if they are fine.
Its just funny to me.
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:53 am to CarRamrod
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what are your thoughts on the smoking ban in restaurants?
You can't possibly be stupid enough to think these two things are similar enough to compare?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:00 am to Fun Bunch
It's just wild to me that even national publications like NY Times are acknowledging Covid vaccine shortcomings + Covid no longer being a big deal due to being so weak.. yet people like the ones running this place are doubling down on this stuff. Are they just flat out not consuming media about it or something?
Are vaccines even approved for ages 2-4? I thought it was only kids 5 and up.
"Staff vote"..
Guarantee that staff is getting drunk in hole in the wall bars on a nightly basis, where half the patrons aren't vaccinated. Hell, you can't even verify that anyone's vaccine proof is real. I've gone to New Orleans several times over the past year using a fake negative test. It's so stupid. You're not protecting anyone.
Are vaccines even approved for ages 2-4? I thought it was only kids 5 and up.
"Staff vote"..
Guarantee that staff is getting drunk in hole in the wall bars on a nightly basis, where half the patrons aren't vaccinated. Hell, you can't even verify that anyone's vaccine proof is real. I've gone to New Orleans several times over the past year using a fake negative test. It's so stupid. You're not protecting anyone. This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:17 am to LouisianaLady
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Are vaccines even approved for ages 2-4? I thought it was only kids 5 and up.
They aren't. They just don't want kids there at all.
You have to understand that COVID is a religion to these people now, and they live in an ultra left bubble. All of their friends are super ultra left hipsters that all think the same.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:25 am to LouisianaLady
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Are they just flat out not consuming media about it or something?
From what I have seen only confirmation bias media.
It probably comes off like an a-hole, but the service industry doesn't exactly attract high level analytical minds.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:41 am to CarRamrod
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what are your thoughts on the smoking ban in restaurants?
Love it. I find the smell of cigarette/cigar smoke to be repugnant and definitely don't want to smell it while I'm paying hard earned money in most restaurants to dine of a good meal.
I'm not so chuffed about it for bars since smoking and drinking for ages was a staple for that business.
I know when they instituted it in N.O. to ban smoking in bars, a lot of the local dart league players took their business to Jefferson and St. Bernard Parishes to play on teams there.
Being a non-smoker, I'm fine with the no smoking in bars, as are many smokers I know. I can frequent a bar to watch a game, toss some darts, shoot pool while downing a few pints and not smell like a damn ashtray when I leave.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:29 am to Fun Bunch
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Philosophically I am against a smoking ban. Selfishly I love it.
Yes.
The Vortex hamburger joint in Atlanta allows smoking.
No one under 21 admitted at all.
I don’t know if this is under a city ordinance or county.
It’s the only place I know of that does this though.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:10 pm to LouisianaLady
This is virtue signalling 5.0
I mean, they can do whatever they want, but it's just so silly. We were late enough as is to remove it as a city. These people are just holier than thou.
I mean, they can do whatever they want, but it's just so silly. We were late enough as is to remove it as a city. These people are just holier than thou.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:15 pm to TH03
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This is virtue signalling 5.0
Absolutely. All the looney people comment on their posts praising them, and they eat it up.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:25 pm to CajunDoc
quote:see what i mean....
You can't possibly be stupid enough to think these two things are similar enough to compare?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:33 pm to LouisianaLady
If people want to wear masks still, it's whatever, you do you. But when it becomes an elitist "I care about safety, why don't you?" attitude like you just need attention or acknowledgment as a "hero," it's just cringey as frick.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:40 pm to LouisianaLady
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It's just wild to me that even national publications like NY Times are acknowledging Covid vaccine shortcomings + Covid no longer being a big deal due to being so weak.. yet people like the ones running this place are doubling down on this stuff. Are they just flat out not consuming media about it or something?
some people are just so married to the take that they can't give up on it.
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"Staff vote".. Guarantee that staff is getting drunk in hole in the wall bars on a nightly basis, where half the patrons aren't vaccinated. Hell, you can't even verify that anyone's vaccine proof is real. I've gone to New Orleans several times over the past year using a fake negative test. It's so stupid. You're not protecting anyone.
100% there few industries that more degenerate than the restaurant industry.
Everyone industry person i know is uber liberal and an avid covid social media poster. While also doing blow at dive bars
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:41 pm to CarRamrod
Smoking can affect other patrons' health, the smell can ruin a meal, etc so to better serve their customers, places ban smoking.
If we get to an endemic stage of covid, we're in a world where covid is the flu. We get a booster or we just get it and get over it. Life is normal, your vaccination status is irrelevant and has no affect on the restaurant or its customers.
Even still, what standing do they have to require it now that the emergency declaration and city orders are no longer in effect? Can they ask for STD tests or liver panels? They are following no government order or even guideline so I don't understand how they can deny service based on medical information.
If we get to an endemic stage of covid, we're in a world where covid is the flu. We get a booster or we just get it and get over it. Life is normal, your vaccination status is irrelevant and has no affect on the restaurant or its customers.
Even still, what standing do they have to require it now that the emergency declaration and city orders are no longer in effect? Can they ask for STD tests or liver panels? They are following no government order or even guideline so I don't understand how they can deny service based on medical information.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:01 pm to TH03
quote:and non smokers can choose to get away from it (im not a smoker). Restaurants were all ready in the process of getting rid of smoking sections, because thats what the market was wanting. But the government imposing laws like this is the same as the government imposing lockdowns. Dont play the small government guy yet love big government rules.
Smoking can affect other patrons' health, the smell can ruin a meal, etc so to better serve their customers, places ban smoking.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:18 pm to CarRamrod
Yeah, I was completely against the smoking ban. That is a decision the business should be free to make on their own. As you said, the issue was basically being taken care of on its own anyway. Even 21+ bars were about 50-50 still allowing smoking around BR.
I recall many folks on this website were against it as well.
I recall many folks on this website were against it as well.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:23 pm to CarRamrod
Oh I see what you're saying now, and yeah I think restaurants should make that call on their own. And most would keep it banned, but if some don't, more power to them.
I just don't think it's comparable to vaccines because any sort of authority, if any, they had would've come from the emergency declaration or city orders. Now that those are expired, how can they continue? If someone refuses to show them, what grounds do they have to refuse service? I don't see how they could claim that as a health hazard since the government doesn't think it should be mandated any more.
I just don't think it's comparable to vaccines because any sort of authority, if any, they had would've come from the emergency declaration or city orders. Now that those are expired, how can they continue? If someone refuses to show them, what grounds do they have to refuse service? I don't see how they could claim that as a health hazard since the government doesn't think it should be mandated any more.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:28 pm to TH03
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what grounds do they have to refuse service?
Well, businesses can refuse service for any reason that isn't protected (age, race, gender, etc.). Being unvaccinated isn't a protected class.
While I think Palm and Pine (and whoever else) are being completely bonkers for requiring it, it isn't illegal for them to do. My true gripe is with the government mandating it.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:43 pm to LouisianaLady
I get that it isn't protected and HIPAA has no bearing in it, but it just seems like something that creates a slippery slope. Can a restaurant start banning cancer patients?
Now I doubt one would, because it wouldn't be good for business, but I can't see how keeping the vax mandate would be good at anything other than getting a pat on the back by the neckbeard, open mouth meme guy. It's just virtue signalling to your culture liberal customers who will feel more enlightened eating there. I can't imagine it'll attract a ton of new business.
What effect, outside of a once in a lifetime global pandemic, does my medical history have on any establishment I wish to patron?
We can definitely relitigate how things could've been handled better by the government, but during a pandemic, it does help to ensure people gathering are vaxxed/testing negative. If we're truly entering endemic stage, then the data shows that we have a handle on it, and people don't really have to be worried about the vax/test status of anyone around, unless they're immunocompromised.
People continuing on with it just need it to remain in their lives or something I guess.
Now I doubt one would, because it wouldn't be good for business, but I can't see how keeping the vax mandate would be good at anything other than getting a pat on the back by the neckbeard, open mouth meme guy. It's just virtue signalling to your culture liberal customers who will feel more enlightened eating there. I can't imagine it'll attract a ton of new business.
What effect, outside of a once in a lifetime global pandemic, does my medical history have on any establishment I wish to patron?
We can definitely relitigate how things could've been handled better by the government, but during a pandemic, it does help to ensure people gathering are vaxxed/testing negative. If we're truly entering endemic stage, then the data shows that we have a handle on it, and people don't really have to be worried about the vax/test status of anyone around, unless they're immunocompromised.
People continuing on with it just need it to remain in their lives or something I guess.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 2:01 pm to TH03
quote:It has been shown that the mayor or governor can extend the "emergency orders" how ever they want, without any push back from "our" reps. Its proven time and time again that as governments take more power then never give it back.
I just don't think it's comparable to vaccines because any sort of authority, if any, they had would've come from the emergency declaration or city orders.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 2:03 pm to TH03
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What effect, outside of a once in a lifetime global pandemic,
oohh they tasted blood....
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