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re: Most Americans prefer their beef well done

Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:16 am to
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9534 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:16 am to
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It makes a lot of sense to order ground meat fully cooked. Contaminants like e.coli are confined to the outside surface of the meat and will be burned off by the heat of cooking.


Exactly. The reason why you can't order a hamburger under medium at most places is because when you grind into hamburger you have now created all kinds of surface area that has been exposed inside the hamburger that will not be fully cooked. A steak is different as the inside of the steak is never exposed.

When you grind your own you can instantly cooked the grinded up hamburger anyway you like since it hasn't been exposed long enough.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15344 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:35 am to
quote:


Misleading title

The chart says that 52% of people prefer their burgers well done

That is the only category of beef where well done surpasses the 50% mark
Your complaint has been submitted to the TD.com ombudsman for review. A full report will issue in 6-8 weeks.

(ie, lighten up Francis)
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:52 am to
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I wouldn't buy a medium cooked burger from every place, but I will from a reputable place that I know has sound food principles and purchases their meat from reputable people.



Why take the chance? Read the health inspections on-line and you find that the best of places are among the worst offenders.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:53 am to
This is completely misleading.

Oh wait it started on the OT.. No suprise
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:57 am to
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Read the health inspections on-line and you find that the best of places are among the worst offenders.

dammit, you did it now!! Get ready for a typing frenzy..
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:09 am to
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Why take the chance? Read the health inspections on-line and you find that the best of places are among the worst offenders.


I grew up with bacteria books on the kitchen table, and raised by a micro biologist. I know full well what's up here. It's been drilled in my head, and I understand the concern. I just try to keep myself up to speed on who's doing what and then frequent those places because of the trust I have in them. My options are few, but at least I know when I get a burger from a reputable place that loves food and has food principles I am getting the best I can get.

Truth is, I see no risk in getting a medium burger from a place where I know it's safe. Like eating raw oysters from reputable people. I've gotten sick off of not so reputable places, and so I choose wisely now.


When I buy meat in the store, I also make sure that I only purchase meat I know for a fact is quality meat that was ground at the store or I have it ground, or grind it myself. I ask them, and I ask people I know who know. It's important to be informed rather than rely upon blind faith, especially these days where failure is around every corner. It's also important to know your butcher and have a certain amount of trust in them as an artizan and professional, not just the guy who puts the meat out in the cooler for you to buy.


Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39903 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:13 am to
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Get ready for a typing frenzy..



Meh, it was only 3 paragraphs. He must not be that worked up yet.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170702 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:17 am to
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Patty is sitting in beef broth waiting for the well done customer and grill marks put on it.

Is that how they do it at curbside?
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:18 am to
balls, we normally speak sort of the same language, what is a fancy name for a "mountainoutofamolehiller"?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:20 am to
FYI There is free beef on LA 30 this morning.

Might want to cook it well done though.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26962 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:25 am to
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I think I could eat a steak that was still warm from the cow's body heat, if I could get it that fresh I wouldn't have to cook it.


Ah, but you would truly miss out on the wonders of a well aged steak...
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39903 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:30 am to
mountainoutofamolehiller- noun- Uptight drama queen who spends their life worrying themself sick about what other people do, where they eat, what they eat, and how stupid they are until one day the mountainoutofamolehiller realizes that it was not worth it and they should have just said frick it, tended to thier own shite, and enjoyed the few years that they had on this Earth but it will be too late and the next thing they know they're dead.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:39 am to
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Is that how they do it at curbside?


Not sure that's necessary PM, as that's not really the group that makes up their fan base, but that's how it's done most everywhere because customers aren't willing to wait the amount of time it takes to overcook a thick piece of hamburger, and while you've got multiple tables at a restaurant ordering burgers and a table with two tickets medium, another mid well, and another well done, you've got ten or fifteen other tables doing the same thing and so things get really screwed up in timing with multiple tickets on the rail, so if you don't then people start getting overcooked meat resting under a heat lamp still cooking waiting for Frank's well done hockey puck to get cooked, or if not, then they're all cold.

What does it matter what Frank gets? Frank likes beef jerkey.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:39 am to
so you found it in the dick shun airy, huh? tks..
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91584 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:47 am to
quote:

A steak is different as the inside of the steak is never exposed.


not so fast...

Meat Glue!
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39903 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:53 am to
quote:

What does it matter what Frank gets?



Cause Frank has a pocket full of US dollars and he's willing to trade them for a well done hamburger.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 9:55 am to
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i just want everyone to work, pay taxes, and be able to buy whatever the hell kind and cooking doneness of meat, that they want and prefer..

oh,,,,,,,,, and world peace.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Cause Frank has a pocket full of US dollars and he's willing to trade them for a well done hamburger.


Then Frank gets it.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17703 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 10:15 am to
I developed a theory years ago working in a semi-upscale restaurant that had a variety of classes of patrons.

It goes like this, the cooking time of one's steak is inversly proportional to one's class.

Basically poor and low class people prefer their meats well done, where wealthier and higher class people prefer their meats more on the rare side.

Many people's feelings get hurt when I tell them this theory.



ETA: Graph
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 10:33 am
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 10:17 am to
A burger needs to be medium imo. Ground meat should be cooked thoroughly. A steak should be medium rare or medium.
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