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re: Most Americans prefer their beef well done
Posted on 2/15/12 at 7:49 pm to OTIS2
Posted on 2/15/12 at 7:49 pm to OTIS2
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Brock, I grew up in the business. If the steer is in a nice pasture, and I pour 15 lbs of good cracked corn in a trough 200 yds from him, he'll break into a run...accross all that good grass...to get to that corn every friggin' time. Belive me...cattle want grain...just a question of whether they get it.
Corn and corn syrup is a hell of a drug. Even the steers know this.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 7:55 pm to Rohan2Reed
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Applebees
If I happen to find myself in one, I'll never order a damn steak. That place is a steak abomnination.
I usually order my meat medium or medium well. I like some pink, I just don't want a cold center.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 7:56 pm to Patrick O Rly
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I usually order my meat medium or medium well. I like some pink, I just don't want a cold center.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 7:58 pm to Salmon
What the hell do I have to do with it? I said I ORDER my steak that way.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:06 pm to Rohan2Reed
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No big surprise. Same crowd that keeps Toby Keith, Applebees and Keeping Up With the Kardashians in business.
Reminds me of that scene from Waiting.
"nothing sets off the taste of a well done steak like some ketchup"
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:15 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Reminds me of that scene from Waiting.
Love that show.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 9:07 pm to Rohan2Reed
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No big surprise. Same crowd that keeps Toby Keith, Applebees and Keeping Up With the Kardashians in business.
this even though toby keith had a few old good sngs
Posted on 2/15/12 at 10:06 pm to Cold Cous Cous
Beef jerky is a lot easier to get at the store.
I don't understand the well done crowd at all. Patty is sitting in beef broth waiting for the well done customer and grill marks put on it. What's even the point?
I don't understand the well done crowd at all. Patty is sitting in beef broth waiting for the well done customer and grill marks put on it. What's even the point?
Posted on 2/16/12 at 12:20 am to Mike da Tigah
Read this board, to a lot of these pitiful morons the term 'gourmet' means wrapped in bacon, cream cheese and jalapenos. Eating well done crappy beef is the least of their sins.
Have some Kraft M&C, order up some spinach artichoke dip, you'se a gor-met.
Have some Kraft M&C, order up some spinach artichoke dip, you'se a gor-met.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:20 am to Cold Cous Cous
I like my steak medium rare as do most people I know, but my hamburgers at least medium. I work with a lady who likes her hamburgers as rare as possible. Most restaurants refuse to serve her anything less than a medium, and one place had her sign a waiver for serving something slightly less than medium. That was probably 4 years ago. I doubt they'd even do it now, waiver or not.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 6:00 am to Cold Cous Cous
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This led me to think -- is this a situation where the wisdom of the crowds wins out over the more elitist attitude of the F&D board? What do they know that we don't know?
i'm horrified. now i agree sometimes my steaks ar TOO rare and hard to cut..i usually put them back on the grill when that happens; but how do you even swallow something that done? you must have to lubricate the shite out of it with a gallon of water.
same with hamburgers; nothing to me like a juicy burger with a red center. i cant stand flat frisbee burgers (part of my problem with 5guys)
Posted on 2/16/12 at 6:04 am to Ariel
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and one place had her sign a waiver for serving something slightly less than medium. That was probably 4 years ago. I doubt they'd even do it now, waiver or not.
on the other side of the spectrum; there's gabby's burgers about 1 mile from my office. they get the meat from a local farm and i always get mine rare with an egg on top.
the owner one time said he was so confident in the meat if i wanted it raw he'd sell it to me.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 6:19 am to CAD703X
I think I could eat a steak that was still warm from the cow's body heat, if I could get it that fresh I wouldn't have to cook it.
My wife and her family eat leather only. It is a pretty weird scene when we go eat steak as a group. The wait staff always has to double check with me an explain what I am ordering will be a warm red center. Then no one at the table can look in my direction without getting sick. I then usually make jokes about how I think the muscle is still twitching just to watch everyone get upset. My father-in-law thinks I am so strange because I eat rare to medium rare steaks and sushi he tells everyone he introduces me too, like he is warning them I have some strange fetish.
My wife and her family eat leather only. It is a pretty weird scene when we go eat steak as a group. The wait staff always has to double check with me an explain what I am ordering will be a warm red center. Then no one at the table can look in my direction without getting sick. I then usually make jokes about how I think the muscle is still twitching just to watch everyone get upset. My father-in-law thinks I am so strange because I eat rare to medium rare steaks and sushi he tells everyone he introduces me too, like he is warning them I have some strange fetish.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 6:21 am
Posted on 2/16/12 at 7:29 am to andouille
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Read this board, to a lot of these pitiful morons the term 'gourmet' means wrapped in bacon, cream cheese and jalapenos. Eating well done crappy beef is the least of their sins.
Have some Kraft M&C, order up some spinach artichoke dip, you'se a gor-met.
I have to believe it has a lot to do with the very limited exposure to truly amazing gourmet food, and I'm not really talking service here, just serious eats.
Just last night I had some food and drinks with some coworkers and clients at a get together in mid city/uptown, and driving back just noticing all the ridiculous wealth of food options littering the city and the real coolness of what I think Mid City and Uptown, not to mention the entirity of New Orleans offers people who live there, you can't help but get it. You have to be blind, dishonest, unobservant, or a combination of them all not to get it. It's all around you, and living there I think some take it for granted. As we sat there discussing all the food options and places to get together next go round it still takes me back how many incredible places there are to choose from that do really awesome food in that city. It just blows me away still to this day. The wonder never fades away.
Upon driving back to the shtick an all too familiar feeling settles in around once a month or more when I make my trek to the city, and that's the limited food options I have waiting for me back home. I'm not talking the number of places that serve "food". I'm talking the places where I can get anything even remotely close to what I see and eat everywhere in NOLA. It's just freaking depressing to be quite honest with you, and yet there's this resolve that swells up in me to see my town changed in this regard, and it is but it's just so flippin slow. I just think this is most everywhere outside of the city in this area and why so few are exposed to truly amazing eats on a whole in the entire gulf coast region, so they are easily impressed with little bitty things that are old and outdated or barely passable.
Now, how a city a mere hour away from such as place as New Orleans is is so polar opposite to it in most every regard is beyond me. There are even a fairly significant number I would say are even resentful of New Orleans or just hate the place even to the point on never wanting to experience new things there or resemble it in any way shape or form. I'd say most of these people are the FQ people, who outside of the quarter never venture anywhere else, but rather console themselves with what they see as a tourist area that gives NOLA great food, and yet outside of the quarter there are no real tourists that support these places to eat. That's the locals, and they are exposed to great food every day. How that came to be I don't really know for sure. Maybe it's just simply always been that way because of a more French influence than BR, and yet it's to me what sustains it. BR surely doesn't have that, and I don't see it as ever emulating New Orleans and nor should it IMO. It can however become a little more like an Austin than where it currently is. I seriously will know a transformation has taken place when I don't hear the masses getting so excited when it's announced that yet another garbage chain restaurant is coming to town with Big Screen TVs and Boobies or video games littering the place. You don't see or hear that where I was last night, and for damn good reason. Why would you?
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 7:41 am
Posted on 2/16/12 at 7:37 am to Cold Cous Cous
Well 53% voted for Oboe just for a comparison of other choices made by many.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:00 am to Cold Cous Cous
It makes a lot of sense to order ground meat fully cooked. Contaminants like e.coli are confined to the outside surface of the meat and will be burned off by the heat of cooking. When you grind the meat, the fecal matter is spread throughout and the internal temp needs to be hot enough to kill the bacteria. I don't know a single restaurant that I would trust for steak tartare these days.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:14 am to Layabout
Correct re ground beef and hamburgers. It makes not a lick of difference whether or not the cow was fed grass, grain, or hamburger. It is the grinding that creates more surface area and exposure and risk.
As for tartare, most of the places I order it from routinely (La Petite Grocery being most shining example), handcut to order. Super cold beef without much fat and sharp clean knives help to eliminate some of the risk.
As for tartare, most of the places I order it from routinely (La Petite Grocery being most shining example), handcut to order. Super cold beef without much fat and sharp clean knives help to eliminate some of the risk.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:14 am to Cold Cous Cous
i just want everyone to work, pay taxes, and be able to buy whatever the hell kind and cooking doneness of meat, that they want and prefer..
oh,,,,,,,,, and world peace.
oh,,,,,,,,, and world peace.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:16 am to Layabout
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When you grind the meat, the fecal matter is spread throughout and the internal temp needs to be hot enough to kill the bacteria
Well, let's be clear here. When you grind the meat in a slaughter house that has cattle standing a foot or two in their own shite and then shove them through a massive prosessing plant to be ground into multiple cattle burger meat you get that. That's why McIdiot feels the need to wash their meat in ammonia in order to make it safe for human consumption. When you go to a reputable spot that grinds their own meat, and/or at least knows who they are buying their meat from, and cares about what they serve, you don't have to worry about the retardation that brought you that meat you're eating. I mean, for that matter, when we now have to worry about e coli, salmonella, and listeria found in fruits and veg as well our water, there's a much bigger problem than we initially realized, and to think how many not only have no interest in knowing where their food comes from, but get mad when you present the subject matter because they don't want to think about it.
Now granted, I wouldn't buy a medium cooked burger from every place, but I will from a reputable place that I know has sound food principles and purchases their meat from reputable people.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 8:27 am
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