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Italian Beef

Posted on 9/19/20 at 11:22 am
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 11:22 am
I'm not sure what a recipe with no photos is good for, but after many attempts, I believe I have hit a very close to Portillo's Italian Beef taste from home.

Disclaimers:

Portillo's uses a Steamboat roast so that they can slice it and I used a chuck, which I pulled apart.

In the 1970's I was corporate Quality Director for Grown division of Dover Industries. We made commercial and industrial cooking equipment, including the CapCold (TM) units that many people, (including Portillo's - I know because we sold them the units) used to cook in cryovac bags. I definitely did not cryovac my roast.



Anyhow, if you have a roast to blow and an instapot to use, here is a good recipe for Italian Beef. I'd like to hear how close you guys think I came to the great Portillo's Italian beef taste.


Italian Beef (Insta Pot)

Ingredients:

2 pound chuck roast
1/2 small onion, sliced thin
1/2 red bell pepper, sliced
2 heaping teaspoons Italian Seasoning
1 heaping teaspoon ground oregano
1 teaspoon onion powder
1/8 teaspoon powdered bay leaf
3 heaping teaspoons Lawry’s garlic salt
1/4 teaspoon black pepper
1 beef bouillon cube, dissolved in 1 cup water, or 1 can beef broth

Directions:

Cut roast into 2 inch pieces; place in the instapot cooker. Add onion, red bell pepper, reconstituted beef bouillon and spices. Cook for 15 minutes.

Using simmer function, reduce cooking liquid by half in a sauce pan and skim fat.

Serve on a poboy bun, with the broth for dipping and peppers, simmered in broth until tender (as desired)


If you are interested, The Groen product line was pulled into the Unified Brands division of Dover a while back. The famous name "Groen" is now a part of Dover's Unified Brands division, With other commercial brands acquired by Dover and added to the product line of the division.

Capcold

The link goes to the Capcold information on this commercial size sous vide cook/chill equipment.

This post was edited on 9/19/20 at 11:35 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 12:25 pm to
quote:


Disclaimers:

Portillo's uses a Steamboat roast so that they can slice it and I used a chuck, which I pulled apart.


I feel like this is the distinction between a Chicago style Italian Beef and a New Orleans style roast beef poboy. I like both a lot, for the record. Your recipe sounds real good, but it seems like it would lean more toward a roast beef poboy.

Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:11 pm to
I'm sure it does. However, the taste is what I was after, not the texture. I can work on texture later, once I have hit the taste.
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:37 pm to
Would this work in a crock pot?
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 3:21 pm to
Can you fit a 2 pound roast in your crockpot?
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:45 pm to
Yes it will. I think maybe 8-10 hours would be required.
Posted by rowbear1922
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Portillo's


Maybe I am just too new to the Midwest but I was underwhelmed by their sandwich. It's good that it comes from a fast food drive through window but I don't get all the hype.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:59 pm to
Hands down, within top 5 sandwiches I have ever purchased. Understand it might not be your thing.

Posted by rowbear1922
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Hands down, within top 5 sandwiches I have ever purchased. Understand it might not be your thing.


I'm for sure going to give it another shot. Maybe I just overhyped it in my head because everyone I know said I had to try it.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:08 pm to
How did you order it prepared?
Posted by rowbear1922
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

How did you order it prepared?


Just ordered it as is on the menu. Didn't know there is some special way to order it.

Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:00 pm to
I agree on Portillos and I was skeptical but it is an incredible sandwich. We did get taken to a dive place on the north side that was better (especially the combo with sausage) but portillos is legit
Posted by 3oliv3
Member since Aug 2016
691 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 7:33 pm to
Fharmacy has an Italian beef on the menu- has anyone had it? I'm pretty sure City Slice on campus in BR had a beef too when they first opened but it doesn't look like they do anymore. Would kill for a Portillo's down here.

IMO a beef has to have sliced beef shredded just isn't the same.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50140 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:14 am to
They dress the sandwich with several different options...I bet you got a dry sandwich by not adding extra gravy...and you need to add the peppers too.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 8:18 am
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Didn't know there is some special way to order it.


“Hot and wet,” they dip the whole sandwich in the drippings and top with hot giardiniera. They have Al’s Italian Beef’s supposed recipe online, gave it a try. Was good but not like the original.

Posted by Fat Harry
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Fharmacy has an Italian beef on the menu- has anyone had it?


I've had it and it's a worthy approximation of a Chicago-style Italian beef sandwich for NOLA. Will definitely scratch the itch.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:02 am to
here’s the Al’s recipe for anyone interested

LINK
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:53 pm to
Al’s is the one I’ve had. Fharmacy and Steins on Saturdays both do good versions.
Posted by Shockthamonkey
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Member since Jul 2016
798 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:46 pm to
Its close to the way I make it. I use a 4lb roast, and at different times I've added hot peppers, sweet peppers, olive mix, and an Italian dressing powder packet or two. Experimented a lot to recreate Portillo's flavor.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:55 pm to
I grew up in Chicago and, outside of the pizza, beefs are the thing I miss the most. You just cannot replicate a Chicago Italian Beef at home without a meat slicer.

This recipe from the Barstool Chicago guys is what I've used recently, though I like to add some fennel to the seasoning mix. I can't get ahold of a perfect bread where I'm at but good enough. Can only get mild Marconi giard, but the hot is available on Amazon (and I always bring some back to GA when I go home to visit family).

***Also, that Thrillist Al's Beef recipe looks great but I don't think it's accurate....there's no spice to the beef but the recipe calls for a lot of hot pepper flakes. Also, shredded whole milk mozz on a beef isn't "like putting ketchup on a hot dog"....it's very common to add cheese to a beef, and delicious.

Dipped, sweet, hot, add cheese.
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