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re: Is sushi/Asian cuisine a FAD or here to stay?

Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by tigers444
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:18 pm to
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99% of sushi bars in BR are owned by viets. Part of the problem.

Which ones?
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:34 pm to
pretty much everyone in BR not named Sushi Yama, Kamado's, or Hello Sushi.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:44 pm to
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So many of the folks opening the sushi joints now have not inate sushi heritage. I guess they can fool a lot of people into thinking they do because they look "Asian", better than say a Mexican could, though.

What does sushi heritage have to do with people enjoying food? If it tastes good people will enjoy it no matter who cooks it. Emeril ain't from New Orleans, but you won't find many who make Creole dishes more satisfying. If some chef of other than Japanese heritage combines some non-traditional ingredients with sushi techniques and it becomes wildly popular is that a bad thing?
Posted by BigAlBR
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:47 pm to
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If some chef of other than Japanese heritage combines some non-traditional ingredients with sushi techniques and it becomes wildly popular is that a bad thing?


Just don't call it sushi. If you choose to eat deep fried shrimp on a soft french roll, don't call it a poboy.
Posted by tigers444
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:47 pm to
::racist:: Tsunami is not owned by Asian people. Koto is not owned by a Viet person either. The only one I can really think of that is owned by a Viet person is the one in Denham that opened up recently. Thanks for playing.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:51 pm to
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So many of the folks opening the sushi joints now have not inate sushi heritage. I guess they can fool a lot of people into thinking they do because they look "Asian", better than say a Mexican could, though.



What does sushi heritage have to do with people enjoying food? If it tastes good people will enjoy it no matter who cooks it. Emeril ain't from New Orleans, but you won't find many who make Creole dishes more satisfying. If some chef of other than Japanese heritage combines some non-traditional ingredients with sushi techniques and it becomes wildly popular is that a bad thing?


You're misunderstanding me.

My point was simply a reply to the post that said it might take 5-10 years for Baton Rougeons to get comfortable seeing a Mexican making sushi. It ain't like they're seeing Japanese folks make it now.

I don't necessarily think either's a bad thing.

Although, I think an argument could be made that these drive by sushi joints on every corner may not be doing a service to the cuisine as originally conceived.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 4:59 pm to
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Although, I think an argument could be made that these drive by sushi joints on every corner may not be doing a service to the cuisine as originally conceived.


fair point, and i tend to agree.

Posted by Meezy
DA Bomb Squad
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 5:43 pm to
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only one I can really think of that is owned by a Viet person is the one in Denham


Geisha. 3 guys on it. Very good sushi!
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 6:00 pm to
My intention wasn't to criticize you. Good cooks can follow recipes and make outstanding meals without any sort of heritage. Innovation in cooking frequently results from people going outside their heritage. I just didn't bother to complete the message, which is my fault.

My personal theory is that you have diners who are experimental and you have purists. Experimental diners will try anything and enjoy fusions of various cooking styles and ingredients. Purists like traditional recipes prepared with traditional ingredients. This board constantly has debates between the two types regarding restaurants in New Orleans, and why Baton Rouge has so few cutting edge restaurants. It's simple, Baton Rouge has too many foood purists. Baton Rouge diners haven't shown the willingness to support experimental ideas by chefs, and those type chefs have been hesitent to risk their careers here as a result.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 6:06 pm to
I agree compeltely...how then can the unlightened community of Jackson embrace such things...this is what confuses me...the cities are almost identical when broken down...except the massive LSU population, which I do think accounts for some of less than adventurous options out there.

Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/5/10 at 6:23 pm to
Maybe it's the Catholic influence in Louisiana (he said as he ducked for cover). We do tend to hold our traditions in higher regard than the residents of neighboring states. Being the capital of Louisiana, Baton Rouge just may be home to more people trying to remain true to our roots.

And Baton Rouge gets lots of business visitors from areas of Louisiana other than New Orleans who don't have a great deal of curiousity when it comes to food.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 3/5/10 at 6:24 pm to
the entire state is slow to change in regards to food, not just BR. It's a normal and expected by product of having your own strong and unique food culture.
This post was edited on 3/5/10 at 6:26 pm
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9984 posts
Posted on 3/5/10 at 10:34 pm to
First of all, i'm not racist. Koto is owned by a Chinese guy.

The original point is that there is very little Japanese authenticity here, because there are hardly any Japanese here.. hence, the sushi experience is not what it should/could be.

They are trained like Japanese chefs, and don't have the same skill set and repertoire.

Drunken Fish is Viet. Ichiban isn't Viet owned, but many of the chefs there are Viet. Nagoya is Viet.

Thanks for playing.
Posted by tigers444
Member since Jun 2009
3101 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 2:27 am to
The racist thing was a little sarcasm. And, you said 99% was owned by VIET people so go back and read what you said. I was just telling you what was owned by who because your statement was incorrect. Thanks for playing again.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16833 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 6:04 am to
so 2 out of the whole town is Viet owned. 99%, i like your math.
Posted by LSUbabygirl
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/7/10 at 3:38 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/7/10 at 4:07 pm
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 3:44 pm to
would you ever date a white guy? i like your passion.
Posted by BigAlBR
Member since Jun 2008
5099 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 3:46 pm to
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Please get off your high white horse


Take your own advice.

BTW: Sushi in Baton Rouge blows.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9984 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 4:04 pm to
Look toots,

Try to grasp this concept: The japanese are on the whole, better at making sushi. It's originally Chinese, but I think we all can agree the Japanese have elevated it to the high art it is recognized as now.
If you are a sushi purist, the sushi produced by Thai, Viets, Chinese- even if good, misses the mark.
It's like a Mexican making Spanish food, there will be similarities, but in no way nails the authentic item.
I said I wasn't racist in response to be accused as such. Try to keep up, love.
Incidentally, dipshit, my parents were immigrants and I'm a first generation American so you can shove that high white horse shite up your Moo Goo Gai Pan.
Now, assuming you aren't a twit- a lofty and generous assumption, I assure you- if you have ever been to a city with a real Japanese population- or Japan itself, you would realize just exactly how far even the best of Baton Rouge sushi falls short of the real McCoy.
Incidentally, you make this point by showing how exactly zero of BR joints is run by Japanese.
I've cooked in restaurants alongside many races- latinos, viets and even a Lao family who made lunch for the crew every day, the matriarch of which I refer to as "Mom." I'm hardly racist.
But I do have enough sense to know that the Japanese are better at making Japanese food than other Asians.
Now, cordially, kiss my arse.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26397 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 4:31 pm to
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TigerSpy
Any places in New Orleans that you consider authentic? Just curious.
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