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re: Is chili just extra meaty spaghetti sauce?

Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:14 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:14 am to
A true Texas red chili has no tomatoes in it and Texans are adamant about that like Cajuns are about tomatoes in gumbo.

To answer your question, No.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:35 am to
I like to use beef short rib meat.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16623 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:41 am to
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Is chili just extra meaty spaghetti sauce?

People out here acting like they invented the wheel.

Where is "here" where you have people making spaghetti sauce and calling it chili?

Step 1: Get better friends
Posted by Gris Gris
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:12 am to
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My shortcut for convenience...2 Alarm chili kit


I usually make Cooks Country chili which I will put below. I needed to make some quicker with less steps last weekend, so I used the 2 Alarm kit and it was fine. I used Dos Equis beer, chopped fresh poblano peppers, semi sweet dark chocolate, a little coriander, some extra cumin, chopped onions sauteed with the meat and topped it with cheese, sour cream and chopped red onions. It was fine.


Five Alarm Chili from Cook's Country

I added chocolate to this and did not put the beans in. I don't follow the measurements exactly. It's very good. I also used Dos Equis for the beer.


Serves 8 to 10

Look for ancho chiles in the international aisle at the supermarket. Light-bodied American lagers, such as Budweiser, work best here. Serve chili with lime, sour cream, scallions, and cornbread.
Ingredients

2 ounces dried ancho chiles (4 to 6 chiles), stemmed, seeded, and flesh torn into 1-inch pieces
3 1/2 cups water
1 (28-ounce) can whole peeled tomatoes
3/4 cup crushed corn tortilla chips
1/4 cup canned chipotle chiles in adobo sauce plus 2 teaspoons adobe sauce
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 pounds 85 percent lean ground beef
Salt and pepper
2 pounds onions, chopped fine
2 jalapeño chiles, stemmed, seeds reserved, and minced
6 garlic cloves, minced
2 tablespoons ground cumin
2 tablespoons chili powder
1 tablespoon dried oregano
2 teaspoons ground coriander
2 teaspoons sugar
1 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 1/2 cups beer
3 (15-ounce) cans pinto beans, rinsed

Instructions

1. Combine anchos and 1½ cups water in bowl and microwave until softened, about 3 minutes. Drain and discard liquid. Process anchos, tomatoes and their juice, remaining 2 cups water, tortilla chips, chipotle, and adobo sauce in blender until smooth, about 1 minute; set aside.

2. Heat 2 teaspoons oil in Dutch oven over medium-high heat until just smoking. Add beef, 1 teaspoon salt, and ½ teaspoon pepper and cook, breaking up pieces with spoon, until all liquid has evaporated and meat begins to sizzle, 10 to 15 minutes. Drain in colander; set aside.

3. Heat remaining 4 teaspoons oil in now-empty Dutch oven over medium-high heat until simmering. Add onions and jalapeños and seeds and cook until onions are lightly browned, about 5 minutes. Stir in garlic, cumin, chili powder, oregano, coriander, sugar, and cayenne and cook until fragrant, about 30 seconds. Pour in beer and bring to simmer. Stir in beans, reserved ancho-tomato mixture, and reserved cooked beef and bring to simmer. Cover, reduce heat to low, and cook, stirring occasionally, until thickened, 50 to 60 minutes. Season with salt to taste. Serve.

FT, if you roast the jalapenos and then chop them up, they add another flavor dimension to whatever chili you're making. Sometimes, I add both fresh and roasted.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:51 am to
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Add some cocoa powder or ground espresso/coffee to the usual spices.


Both of those are good for adding extra depth of flavor.

At times I’ll put about 1/2-3/4 of a dark chocolate bar in.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80521 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:54 pm to
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Apparently it is in Cincinnati. They are so confused.


For the record, people in Cincinnati are nuts for liking that.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 2:02 pm to
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For the record, people in Cincinnati are nuts for liking that.


Don't they put cinnamon in it too?

fricking psychos.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80521 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Don't they put cinnamon in it too?

fricking psychos.


Not sure, I haven't looked into it.

It's fine for a chili dog (which they do sell), but on spaghetti it's just not good.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75347 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Don't they put cinnamon in it too?

fricking psychos.


Not sure, I haven't looked into it.


From google AI-

quote:

Yes, cinnamon is a key ingredient in Cincinnati chili:
Spices
Cincinnati chili is known for its unique blend of spices that includes cinnamon, allspice, cloves, cumin, nutmeg, and chili powder. Some recipes also add cocoa powder.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23171 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:06 pm to
Different seasonings
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:21 pm to
Do you use chili powder in marinara? I sure wouldn’t.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16395 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:42 pm to
Not if you use real chilli’s
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33473 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:07 pm to
You must hang out with people who have no fricking idea what they’re talking about
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39245 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:03 pm to
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deer ground meat

Is that the same as ground venison?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:30 pm to
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People get snobbish AF about chili.


The thing about chili is it is simple comfort food, difficult to elevate unless it is deconstructed. It is also damn near impossible to frick up unless you make it literally too hot to eat. As a result even people that otherwise can't boil water think they have the ultimate chili recipe in their arsenal. The issue is that it is just their comfort food. There is no point preening and strutting about a dish that will never see the menu of a starred restaurant. Make it the way that hits that comfort food spot for you and accept others are looking for a different flavor and texture profile.

My recipe is simple, ground beef, three kinds of beans, onion, garlic, bell pepper, and seasoning. I rely heavily on chili powder because it already has paprika, garlic powder, cayenne pepper, onion powder, oregano, and cumin in it. I usually only adjust the flavor outside that with cumin and cayenne and some salt. It isn't haute cuisine and isn't meant to be, I make 4 or so gallons in October and we eat it over the course of the winter. I eat it with cheese and saltines, YMMV.
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
2869 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:33 pm to
Ground venison mixed with pork (Boston Butt)
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:06 am to
You were dropped as a child weren't you?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41039 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:15 am to
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Don't they put cinnamon in it too?

fricking psychos.


It isn't that uncommon

Skyline uses way too much, but can be good when balanced with the other spices.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:17 am to
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. I eat it with cheese and saltines


Same but add the hotdog in a bun smothered in it from time to time.
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