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IPAs and Bottle/Can Dates
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:16 am
Was hoping maybe to get some insight on this by starting a separate thread.
In yesterday's FBD thread, I commented that I tried Founder's Centinnial IPA for the first time in maybe two years and was very disappointed considering how good Founders' stuff normally is.
The bottle date was 12/11/15. Not fresh, but not what I would think should be considered old either. That's inside 90 days.
I know some IPA mavens say you shouldn't drink IPAs outside two weeks.
But, is there certain breweries, or IPAs with certain hops that hold up better than others? What are some of the good IPA brands that can still be trusted close to 90 days out? Which ones can't be trusted past 6-8 weeks?
Just trying to continue to learn from this board. Severa of you have been helpful in the past.
Thanks.
In yesterday's FBD thread, I commented that I tried Founder's Centinnial IPA for the first time in maybe two years and was very disappointed considering how good Founders' stuff normally is.
The bottle date was 12/11/15. Not fresh, but not what I would think should be considered old either. That's inside 90 days.
I know some IPA mavens say you shouldn't drink IPAs outside two weeks.
But, is there certain breweries, or IPAs with certain hops that hold up better than others? What are some of the good IPA brands that can still be trusted close to 90 days out? Which ones can't be trusted past 6-8 weeks?
Just trying to continue to learn from this board. Severa of you have been helpful in the past.
Thanks.
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:22 am to ragincajun03
Any IPA should still be perfectly fine within 90 days, assuming proper storage.
Which of course is a bold assumption.
Which of course is a bold assumption.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:25 am to ragincajun03
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But, is there certain breweries, or IPAs with certain hops that hold up better than others? What are some of the good IPA brands that can still be trusted close to 90 days out? Which ones can't be trusted past 6-8 weeks?
In my experience how well an IPA holds up over time depends more on the brewery and the packaging more than the hops used.
Some breweries are OCD about O2 pick up during packaging , others not so much. IMO this can make a HUGE difference in the longevity of the beer once packaged.
quote:
Any IPA should still be perfectly fine within 90 days, assuming proper storage.
This too
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 9:27 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:25 am to LSUBoo
That's what I would hope, because drinking only stuff within 45-60 days doesn't leave too many options unless you're in constant contact with shop owners and store beer departments.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:26 am to ragincajun03
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I know some IPA mavens say you shouldn't drink IPAs outside two weeks
Yeah, but there also ipa mavens that say that hops don't hit their stride until about 2-3 weeks AFTER bottling.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:28 am to ragincajun03
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But, is there certain breweries, or IPAs with certain hops that hold up better than others? What are some of the good IPA brands that can still be trusted close to 90 days out? Which ones can't be trusted past 6-8 weeks?
It depends on the brewery and how well their packaging techniques are. It's all about oxygen exposure. you would think that a brewery like Sierra Nevada and Founders, should be able to keep their IPA's relatively fresh. That being said, i typically only try and grab IPA's that are within a month of the bottled date.
With Parish's stuff being so fresh, there's no need to take my chances on a 3 month old Hop Hunter. Now fresh Hop Hunter from Sierra Nevada is fantastic.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:30 am to LSURoss
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there also ipa mavens that say that hops don't hit their stride until about 2-3 weeks AFTER bottling
I think you've identified a need for the addition of time to the bottled on date stamp.
That way the true hops mavens will want to drink their IPAs at precisely 2 weeks post bottling...
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:30 am to LSUBoo
Storage is the main thing. It's next to impossible to control how beer is handled once it gets out in the market. 90 days is pretty much industry standard, but then you have Goose Island with 180 days.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:30 am to LSURoss
Most of the mavens talking about the differences in the taste between batches made literally a week apart are vastly over rating their own palate. Most of those perceived differences are mental or psychological.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:31 am to BugAC
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3 month old Hop Hunter
#CrescentCrownProblems
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:31 am to ragincajun03
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That's what I would hope, because drinking only stuff within 45-60 days doesn't leave too many options unless you're in constant contact with shop owners and store beer departments.
That, and you have better chances of your local breweries having stuff on the shelves in that range, rather than breweries further out.
However, if you deal with distributors like Crescent Crown (as we've seen in a few threads), the distributor can really determine if you will get those beers fresh or not.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:32 am to BugAC
I commented on the FBD thread last night that I've enjoyed older Hop Hunter, but Mayzee said HH holds up well bc it's contains hop oil, which makes it an unfair comparison.
His response is why I wanted to start this thread, to try and gain further knowledge for my beer shopping.
His response is why I wanted to start this thread, to try and gain further knowledge for my beer shopping.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:37 am to BugAC
I just want fresh 15 packs of all day ipa. Even in dallas last weekend the freshest I found was Oct 2015.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:44 am to ragincajun03
The only thing I've learned is that every beer is different. They all maintain that hop character at differing rates -- I'll buy some at 6 weeks, whereas others I won't buy at one month. I pretty much just learn by trying and remembering what I liked or didn't like.
Some of that is packaging, some of it is brew process, some of it is hop bill vs. malt bill. There are a lot of factors.
Some of that is packaging, some of it is brew process, some of it is hop bill vs. malt bill. There are a lot of factors.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:55 am to Matisyeezy
For fairly widely distributed brands, which have you found to hold up well/not so well?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:57 am to Tiger Ryno
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Most of the mavens talking about the differences in the taste between batches made literally a week apart are vastly over rating their own palate
I think people are over rating their memory more than their palate. It's fairly easy to take notes on a beer when you drink it and accurately describe the aromas and flavors you perceive. I do this quite often, especially with beers I brew.
It's much more difficult to accurately remember those perceptions over time and accurately recall the differences from batch to batch unless the differences are extreme.
Where a lot of people get ahead of themselves is assuming that the differences they perceive in a beer from batch A to batch B is the result of a recipe change and not some other equally as likely reason.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:58 am to ragincajun03
Green Flash - west coast ipa
Goose Island - IPA
St Arnold - Ellisa
Goose Island - IPA
St Arnold - Ellisa
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:00 am to LSURoss
To avoid or that hold up well?
The only one from that list I ever buy is West Coast. I enjoy it very much.
The only one from that list I ever buy is West Coast. I enjoy it very much.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:00 am to LSUGrad00
I'm convinced you could fill 2 bottles from the same tank, put different dates on them and someone will tell you why one is better than the other.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:01 am to ragincajun03
Hold up well, to me anyway.
Eta: goose ipa is a classic but gets looked over most of the time.
Eta: goose ipa is a classic but gets looked over most of the time.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 10:04 am
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