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re: I'm beginning to catch on to the criticism of the BR food scene
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:52 am to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:52 am to Rohan2Reed
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It truly is. In hindsight I wish I would have skipped Milan, spent 1 less day in Rome and used that time in Cinque Terre. There and Florence are hard to beat.
Florence was my favorite stop in Italy on both trips I've gone on there, and I've never been able to spend enough time there. I want to go back and just do Rome for a day so my SO can visit the Vatican and Coliseum with Florence and try Cinque Terre for several days, with maybe one romantic day and night in Venice with the Mrs. My first trip was Rome, Florence, and Venice then up to Paris and London; my second trip took me to Capri, Pompeii, and Sorrento after a cruise around the Aegean.
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:53 am to notiger1997
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Aren't you a little bit young to be making such broad statements about the dining scene around the world?
I may be young, but I have traveled quite extensively. I have found that most places with better food than back home were places with far more people. Mostly an observation.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:56 am to kingbob
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There's about 6,000 people in The Cinque Terre.
That place sounds amazing, I'll have to make a point to visit there on my next trip back to Italy
There are really great Italian seafood places there (probably not the name of the genre, but whatever). I had fish in a bag there that shat all over the dish they have at Borgne. Had another insane lobster pasta dish. Everything is super fresh.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:58 am to Hermit Crab
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Just did some quick math based on the wikipedia pages of the colleges in each city. They both come out to 16.4% of the city population.
Well done.
In all honesty, the SCAD population probably somewhat enhances the food scene.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:00 am to LouisianaLady
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I was agreeing that probably half of the city just doens't give a shite about dining out. Lots of good ole boy types.
This is true.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:00 am to Tigertown in ATL
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In all honesty, the SCAD population probably somewhat enhances the food scene.
I feel like college students enhance the restaurant scene at the under $10 price point (AM Mart, Inga's, City Pork, Izzo's, Raul's, ect), but do nothing for the high-end market.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:00 am to notiger1997
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I do have a problem with the BR suburbs.
Maybe suburbs are the issue.
Savannah doesn't really have suburbs like other places. Downtown is a great destination.
Atlanta's suburbs are a dining wasteland. Sure there are some spots, but per capita it is horrible.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:04 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Maybe suburbs are the issue.
Absolutely. Suburbs are generally filled with transplants and chains because that's all transplants know. Young rural areas have poor choices because there is no native food culture and resemble suburbs with even less choices. Old rural areas have great food due to long traditions of home cooking, but much of it will only be in the home and only some may find its way to restaurants.
For example: Denham is a suburb with lots of young rural areas. The food is very mediocre. Prarieville is the same way. South Livingston (French Settlement, Maurepas, Head of Island, ect) is old rural and therefore has much better food.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:08 am to kingbob
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Maybe suburbs are the issue.
Absolutely. Suburbs are generally filled with transplants and chains because that's all transplants know.
One of the issues is, BR is by and large nothing more than a huge suburb. There's hardly any neighborhood type scene, which is usually the types of places that are conducive for developing fresh casual restaurants. Such places don't really lend themselves to strip malls on clogged suburban artery type roads.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:12 am to kingbob
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feel like college students enhance the restaurant scene at the under $10 price point (AM Mart, Inga's, City Pork, Izzo's, Raul's, ect), but do nothing for the high-end market.
Well, that may be true with the average LSU student, but not all college student's are alike. I live a handful of blocks from Tulane and these kids have money (Obiviously) and they go out and dine at the $15-20 places regularly. They don't eat at Am Mart they eat at Satsuma or Vietnamese places.
LSU has a huge percentage of students who don't know the first thing about different types of cuisine.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:13 am to kingbob
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I feel like college students enhance the restaurant scene at the under $10 price point (AM Mart, Inga's, City Pork, Izzo's, Raul's, ect), but do nothing for the high-end market.
To be fair (and I hope my tone is inflected.. I'm not arguing or trying to sound rude), with the exception of what City Pork is trying to do, none of those places are anything remarkable.
And the same can be said for more than half of the list you named earlier.
I think there's a big difference between acceptable/decent and good. A deli sandwich or a plate of fried shrimp are not bad foods. They're good, and good to eat when the craving hits.
But when I'm thinking about an ideal food scene, having food that isn't inedible isn't the bar I measure at. I like creativity.. and something that interests me. Baton Rouge has a few places that somewhat do it.. IPO/Beausoleil I already named.. Chelsea's.. Byronz (kinda). But we are just really lacking when it comes to breaking away from fried seafood/boring sandwiches/burgers.
Even take a place like Milk Bar (or even Butcher) in New Orleans. It's a sandwich shop. No frills. Not expensive. But look at the sandwiches they serve. You can't compare AM Mart's grocery store meat/bread to that.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:14 am to Y.A. Tittle
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One of the issues is, BR is by and large nothing more than a huge suburb. There's hardly any neighborhood type scene, which is usually the types of places that are conducive for developing fresh casual restaurants. Such places don't really lend themselves to strip malls on clogged suburban artery type roads.
Exactly, however, contrary to popular opinion, Baton Rouge has some non suburban neighborhoods with lots of great casual restaurants. Southdowns, the Garden District, Capital Heights, Old Goodwood, Bocage (to some extent) aren't nearly as "suburb" as much of the rest of the city. Hence, those areas are well stocked with many great, unique local haunts (Georges, Pinetta's, Red Zeppelin, Truly Free Bakery, Smokin' Aces, Y'vette Marie's, Bistro Byron's, Fleur de lis. Monjuni's, Goodwood Grill, Bousolei, Deerman's, ect).
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:14 am to LouisianaLady
Banh Mi is pretty cheap
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:17 am to Oenophile Brah
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LSU has a huge percentage of students who don't know the first thing about different types of cuisine.
This.
LSU students eat Kaminari AYCE bullshite.. or Pluckers.. or Five Guys.
Believe me, I spent way more time in college than I needed, and those people don't eat well. They aren't even the ones at Chimes or WalkOns. The majority of Chimes/WalkOns business is graduates.
I dine out all the time, and I rarely see students (judging by age/attire) anywhere I go.
I've known people who lived here all through college and didn't even know anything past College Drive existed.
The student population does little to nothing for the food scene, unfortunately.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:20 am to LouisianaLady
Is that surprising? I'm confused.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:21 am to LouisianaLady
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You can't compare AM Mart's grocery store meat/bread to that.
There's something to be said for doing something simple and doing it well. Milk bar is a great spot, by the way. I'd like to thank whomever on the board recommended I check it out last summer. There's nothing unique about a hamburger, but does this board not brag about who does it best? What about some of the more unique options at the Chimes? University Club? Heck, Maxwell's market has some seriously good and unique sandwiches to boot.
I personally believe that most people's criticism of BR's food comes from its proximity to New Orleans. New Orleans may be a top 5 food city in the world and it's only an hour and a half down the road. It can be frustrating being so close and so inferior, but that kind of thinking often causes people to not appreciate what we do have, which is some seriously tasty food for a small city.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:27 am to kingbob
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There's something to be said for doing something simple and doing it well.
It's a frickin turkey sandwich!!!!
You get that at home if you want it.
The problem with BR is even the cheap places aren't very interesting. You named
quote:I could list 50 places in NOLA at similar price points that run circles around those places. Places at this $10-15 price point can reach all type of diners as it's affordable. The city appears to have no interest in Vietnamese food and only casual interest in "fresh" fare.
Chimes? University Club? Heck, Maxwell's market
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:28 am to Oenophile Brah
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but not all college student's are alike. I live a handful of blocks from Tulane and these kids have money (Obiviously) and they go out and dine at the $15-20 places regularly.
Not all college students are alike but, for the most part, they are pretty much the same across the board when it comes to food. Just because some people at Tulane eat at Vietnamese places(which actually tend to be cheap), that doesn't mean handfuls aren't still eating ramen and cheetos for dinner
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LSU has a huge percentage of students who don't know the first thing about different types of cuisine.
As does every other college in the country.
I've probably spent more time in college than most people on this site and have noticed that food preferences doesn't change that much based on your family background. Fwiw, I'm currently at a school whose 18-21yr old population's parents probably have more money than your average Tulane student.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:30 am to LouisianaLady
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I spent way more time in college than I needed
That's odd.
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The student population does little to nothing for the food scene, unfortunately.
Why "unfortunately?"
As an aside, half of the SCAD population are strange agents. I think they probably do influence the food scene.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:30 am to kingbob
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Absolutely. Suburbs are generally filled with transplants and chains because that's all transplants know.
Real suburbs have great dining choices in their downtown areas. Most, if not all, are local restaurants too. Stay away from the main drags, and you're golden.
Source: Lived in DuPage County for the past 10 years (The suburbiest county of all counties)
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