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Homemade Stock Question

Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:34 am
I make my own stock every time we have bones or shells. My basic stock is simple, add the trinity with black peppercorns and garlic cloves. Add water & a little vinegar, bring to a boil and simmer for 6 hours and strain into 1 qt containers

My question, would this be considered a concentrate? Then when I pull it out of my freezer to use, do I add water if so how much? I normally do not however, the natural gelatin from the bones congeals the food when cooled.

This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:40 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15113 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:41 am to
I make many different stocks and if doing poultry, beef or pork, I cook them down for about 12 hours on a low boil. That way they concentrate and when cooled in the fridge, they turn into a jell much like Jello and that is a concentrated stock/aspic and a little bit of that goes a long way when cooking.

If only cooking for a few hours like you describe, it won't get that concentrated and I treat that like a broth and tend to not add much water to it when cooking.

As for stuff like seafood stocks, I only cook them for around an hour or so. I've found the longer you cook them, they tend to get a little bitter in taste. Like a shrimp stock, I'll just put the shells and heads in a pot, cover that with water, add a touch of salt and bring it to a boil. I don't add any of the trinity or other aromatics since it only cooks for a short time.
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1702 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:59 am to
Yes agree, my seafood stock is a shorter cook. Thank you for your tips.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5832 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:49 pm to

I make stocks and freeze in quart bags also. I always keep 6 - 10 bags or so in the freezer.

I use a pressure cooker and make a gallon or more at a time. At 15 psig, the water temperature in the pressure cooker is 250 deg F instead of the 212 F you get on the stove at atmospheric pressure. 1 1/2 to 2 hrs is plenty at the higher temp.

Posted by LSshoe
Burrowing through a pile o MikePoop
Member since Jan 2008
4009 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:31 pm to
Yeah I'm pretty unscientific with my stockmaking. I store trimmings from applicable veggies either in fridge or freezer until I have a bone or shell then dump it all in a pressure cooker to go for an hour or two. I don't usually time it. Cool off and strain. I've also started pouring into ice cubes and freeze that way, at least for part of it. I think 1 tray = 12 cubes = 1cup though I might be a bit off.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5832 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:56 pm to

I measured water volume from a full ice tray a couple days ago for some unknown reason (16 cubes).

It measured 2 cups, or about 1 oz per cube.





This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6980 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:18 pm to
How much water are you using and how many bones and of what? I make 5-6 qt of stock with a whole chicken or small turkey and I wouldnt consider that concentrated
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1702 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:57 pm to
Example, if I use the bones from a Costco roasted chicken I will add enough water to cover everything to boil then simmer. When I strain it is a little over a quart of stock is what is left.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
7629 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

My question, would this be considered a concentrate?

That depends... there are many factors that contribute to the quality of a stock. My best answer would be, does it taste like a concentrate?
Posted by LSshoe
Burrowing through a pile o MikePoop
Member since Jan 2008
4009 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

measured 2 cups, or about 1 oz per cube.



That makes more sense. I usually measure it and mark on the bag bc I never remember
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 9:45 pm
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6980 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:06 pm to
I probably wouldn’t consider that concentrated unless you reduced it down a lot. I usually boil a whole chicken (meat and bones) in the 6 quarts. It comes out pretty rich but when I cook with it, I don’t really dilute it much
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21455 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:16 pm to
I wouldn't call that a concentrate. See visual aid below.

Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24556 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

if I use the bones from a Costco roasted chicken I will add enough water to cover everything to boil then simmer. When I strain it is a little over a quart of stock is what is left.





I would consider it a concentrate if it reduces down to 1/4 of its original volume. So if you used 4c water to start and ended with 1c, then that could be a concentrate. Most stocks aren't concentrated though.
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