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Homemade Stock Question
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:34 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:34 am
I make my own stock every time we have bones or shells. My basic stock is simple, add the trinity with black peppercorns and garlic cloves. Add water & a little vinegar, bring to a boil and simmer for 6 hours and strain into 1 qt containers
My question, would this be considered a concentrate? Then when I pull it out of my freezer to use, do I add water if so how much? I normally do not however, the natural gelatin from the bones congeals the food when cooled.
My question, would this be considered a concentrate? Then when I pull it out of my freezer to use, do I add water if so how much? I normally do not however, the natural gelatin from the bones congeals the food when cooled.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:40 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:41 am to NOLATiger71
I make many different stocks and if doing poultry, beef or pork, I cook them down for about 12 hours on a low boil. That way they concentrate and when cooled in the fridge, they turn into a jell much like Jello and that is a concentrated stock/aspic and a little bit of that goes a long way when cooking.
If only cooking for a few hours like you describe, it won't get that concentrated and I treat that like a broth and tend to not add much water to it when cooking.
As for stuff like seafood stocks, I only cook them for around an hour or so. I've found the longer you cook them, they tend to get a little bitter in taste. Like a shrimp stock, I'll just put the shells and heads in a pot, cover that with water, add a touch of salt and bring it to a boil. I don't add any of the trinity or other aromatics since it only cooks for a short time.
If only cooking for a few hours like you describe, it won't get that concentrated and I treat that like a broth and tend to not add much water to it when cooking.
As for stuff like seafood stocks, I only cook them for around an hour or so. I've found the longer you cook them, they tend to get a little bitter in taste. Like a shrimp stock, I'll just put the shells and heads in a pot, cover that with water, add a touch of salt and bring it to a boil. I don't add any of the trinity or other aromatics since it only cooks for a short time.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:59 am to gumbo2176
Yes agree, my seafood stock is a shorter cook. Thank you for your tips.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:49 pm to NOLATiger71
I make stocks and freeze in quart bags also. I always keep 6 - 10 bags or so in the freezer.
I use a pressure cooker and make a gallon or more at a time. At 15 psig, the water temperature in the pressure cooker is 250 deg F instead of the 212 F you get on the stove at atmospheric pressure. 1 1/2 to 2 hrs is plenty at the higher temp.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:31 pm to Nawlens Gator
Yeah I'm pretty unscientific with my stockmaking. I store trimmings from applicable veggies either in fridge or freezer until I have a bone or shell then dump it all in a pressure cooker to go for an hour or two. I don't usually time it. Cool off and strain. I've also started pouring into ice cubes and freeze that way, at least for part of it. I think 1 tray = 12 cubes = 1cup though I might be a bit off.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:56 pm to LSshoe
I measured water volume from a full ice tray a couple days ago for some unknown reason (16 cubes).
It measured 2 cups, or about 1 oz per cube.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:18 pm to NOLATiger71
How much water are you using and how many bones and of what? I make 5-6 qt of stock with a whole chicken or small turkey and I wouldnt consider that concentrated
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:57 pm to jamiegla1
Example, if I use the bones from a Costco roasted chicken I will add enough water to cover everything to boil then simmer. When I strain it is a little over a quart of stock is what is left.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 8:12 pm to NOLATiger71
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My question, would this be considered a concentrate?
That depends... there are many factors that contribute to the quality of a stock. My best answer would be, does it taste like a concentrate?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:44 pm to Nawlens Gator
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measured 2 cups, or about 1 oz per cube.
That makes more sense. I usually measure it and mark on the bag bc I never remember
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:06 pm to NOLATiger71
I probably wouldn’t consider that concentrated unless you reduced it down a lot. I usually boil a whole chicken (meat and bones) in the 6 quarts. It comes out pretty rich but when I cook with it, I don’t really dilute it much
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:16 pm to NOLATiger71
I wouldn't call that a concentrate. See visual aid below.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:23 pm to NOLATiger71
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if I use the bones from a Costco roasted chicken I will add enough water to cover everything to boil then simmer. When I strain it is a little over a quart of stock is what is left.
I would consider it a concentrate if it reduces down to 1/4 of its original volume. So if you used 4c water to start and ended with 1c, then that could be a concentrate. Most stocks aren't concentrated though.
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