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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:41 pm to GeauxPack81
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:41 pm to GeauxPack81
I brewed a 10 gallon batch today. 100% pilsner and Hallertau Mittelfruh. I'm fermenting both batches with Oslo. One batch will get brett B because why not?
Even though I'm using Oslo, I have to say I have not been all that impressed with it flavor wise. I think I'm setting the bar too high. I mean, it can ferment somewhat cleanly at close to 100 degrees, which is frankly amazing, but it's just not clean enough for me. It just comes out dull. Not boring dull, but the opposite of sharp dull. There's no crispness like you get with a lager yeast at low temperatures.
I'll still continue to use it in the summer when my ferm chamber struggles to do even ales and I want a fizzy yellow beer, but given the choice I'd rather something else.
Even though I'm using Oslo, I have to say I have not been all that impressed with it flavor wise. I think I'm setting the bar too high. I mean, it can ferment somewhat cleanly at close to 100 degrees, which is frankly amazing, but it's just not clean enough for me. It just comes out dull. Not boring dull, but the opposite of sharp dull. There's no crispness like you get with a lager yeast at low temperatures.
I'll still continue to use it in the summer when my ferm chamber struggles to do even ales and I want a fizzy yellow beer, but given the choice I'd rather something else.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 3:15 pm to BottomlandBrew
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I brewed a 10 gallon batch today. 100% pilsner and Hallertau Mittelfruh. I'm fermenting both batches with Oslo. One batch will get brett B because why not?
I've been considering a kveik pilsner but...
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There's no crispness like you get with a lager yeast at low temperatures.
This would be my issue. I like a good crisp pilsner with some noble hop bite. I also was thinking of an oktoberfest with this strain, but think i'll just do the quick lager method.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:23 pm to BugAC
Came across some interesting information in the milk the funk facebook group about reusing spent dry hops from a NEIPA.
LINK
So dry hopping only strips away a portion of the hop oils. 77% of Alpha acids remain and 51% of hop essential oils, and it appears, the hops are "carbonated" so risk of oxygenation could be low. Now, this is using whole cone. I assume your utilization is better using pellets than cone, therefore the remaining viable hop oils may be reduced even more.
I've often thought about how much hop matter is "wasted" when you transfer to the keg. May try to reuse this in the future for a sach/brett saison or something.
LINK
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From the article. This is staggering:
“Approximately one-third of the dry-matter composition of hops was lost during dry-hopping regardless of hop variety; however, there was high retention of both a-acids (77% pilot scale, 52% industrial) and hop essential oil (51% pilot scale, 33% industrial). The oil remaining in the spent hops was enriched in hydrocarbon compounds and depleted in oxygenated compounds. These results indicate that spent dry-hops contain considerable brewing value and have the potential for re-use.”
So dry hopping only strips away a portion of the hop oils. 77% of Alpha acids remain and 51% of hop essential oils, and it appears, the hops are "carbonated" so risk of oxygenation could be low. Now, this is using whole cone. I assume your utilization is better using pellets than cone, therefore the remaining viable hop oils may be reduced even more.
I've often thought about how much hop matter is "wasted" when you transfer to the keg. May try to reuse this in the future for a sach/brett saison or something.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 8/1/19 at 3:04 pm to USEyourCURDS
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Huge if true
It could work if you wanted to do a pale ale after the fact too. Wonder if you'd need a biotrans hop addition or if the yeast activity will grab onto those flocculated hops in the trub.
Which also leads to the question, if you intend to do this, do you cold crash, or transfer to a keg first?
Posted on 8/1/19 at 3:27 pm to BugAC
Probably still cold crash. idk, experimenting with it would be half the fun lol
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:13 pm to USEyourCURDS
Something to think about!
Hey Bug, I’m about to make my first of a Solera I’m looking to get started. I’ve made a grain bill that’s mostly Belgian Pils with a bit of Wheat and a touch of Carapils. I just recently bought a 5 gallon Rum Barrel that I was thinking I could start the Solera on. I’m new to this process and have read up on t a bit, but know you’re extremely experienced when it comes to sours and Solera. Any suggestions?
Hey Bug, I’m about to make my first of a Solera I’m looking to get started. I’ve made a grain bill that’s mostly Belgian Pils with a bit of Wheat and a touch of Carapils. I just recently bought a 5 gallon Rum Barrel that I was thinking I could start the Solera on. I’m new to this process and have read up on t a bit, but know you’re extremely experienced when it comes to sours and Solera. Any suggestions?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:14 pm to The Estimator
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Any suggestions?
Awesome. I started my first solera about 9 months ago, so I haven’t made my first pull yet. Just treat it like a normal sour. Only suggestions would be, try to primary in a separate fermenter. If you leave sours sitting on trub for multiple years, like a solera, then you’re see some negative off flavors. A year is fine, but a solera is basically a never ending sour.
2) Forget the rum barrel. The smaller 5 gallon barrels have smaller staves and allow too much oxygen ingress. If you were just going to age for 3 or 4 months, you’d be ok, but in a 5 gallon rum barrel, your beer may get acetic. Also, from what I’ve read, spirit barrels, aren’t taken very good care of. Bourbon barrels seem to be better than other spirits but rum and tequila are usually rough. Also, you have to make sure nothing is growing in the barrel. You’ll need to rehydrate it as well, and make sure the rings are secure.
In short, On the homebrew level, solera and spirit barrels aren’t great mates. Just stick with glass and add wood spirals soaked in rum, if you want the character. You could even fortify it with some rum if you want.
If you really want to use the barrel, you could age your solera pull in the barrel for a couple months, but unless you’re solera aging is a 7 gallon fermenter, you will have too much headspace in the 5 gallon barrel.
If it was me, I wouldn’t use the barrel for solera. If you’re set on using the barrel, just make a standard mixed ferm sour (or quick sour) and finish the beer in the barrel for a month or 2. Just beware of oxygen ingress.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:51 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'm finally brewing tomorrow for the first time in a while. Shocker, but it'll be a saison. I meant to buy some wlp565, but somehow got out of the store with wlp568. I've never used that saison blend before
I kegged this beer yesterday. Gotta say that this isn't my favorite saison yeast. High phenols and low esters. It's way heavy on the clove. It would be a good yeast selection if you were planning on brett aging as there's a lot for the brett to work with. In fact, I'm thinking of doing that. I'll drink on it for a week and see if I come around to it's current profile. If not, I'm going to pull it and funk it up.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:14 pm to BottomlandBrew
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. It would be a good yeast selection if you were planning on brett aging as there's a lot for the brett to work with. In
Sounds perfect. Not able to brew until next weekend but I need a blender batch. Sounds like a good candidate for a Brett/Sach copitch. Currently have 3 gallons of a mixed ferm beer that is getting some cherries, so this will be the target. Remainder of the batch will get the infamous Roselaire blend.
FWIW, I’m fairly certain I’ve used 568 before, but I’m sure it was in one of my long aged mixed ferm batches.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 8/10/19 at 2:36 pm to BugAC
Beer Gun owners
If you have had problems with too much foam when bottling with a Beer Gun, I may have a cheap and simple hack to help reduce excesive foaming.
I bought a pack of #2 drilled stoppers on Amazon. I removed the tip of the Beer Gun and slid the stopper on to the shaft, and then replaced the tip. The stopper is slightly loose and can easily slide up and down the shaft.
When filling a bottle, just fill it as normal. Flush with CO2 with the stopper above the mouth of the bottle, and then push the stopper down into the bottle and fill. You don't want to jam it in too hard, just enough so that the stopper compresses around the shaft on forms a seal. As you fill, the stopper will keep a small amount of back pressure in the bottle that helps to reduce foaming. If too much pressure builds up, it will break through the seal between the stopper and the shaft, so I didn't have any concerns of a bottle exploding.
You can see in the picture below that I only had about a 1/2 inch of foam when filling a bomber. It isn't a perfect solution, but it worked pretty well and I had MUCH less foam than when I have bottled in the past.

If you have had problems with too much foam when bottling with a Beer Gun, I may have a cheap and simple hack to help reduce excesive foaming.
I bought a pack of #2 drilled stoppers on Amazon. I removed the tip of the Beer Gun and slid the stopper on to the shaft, and then replaced the tip. The stopper is slightly loose and can easily slide up and down the shaft.
When filling a bottle, just fill it as normal. Flush with CO2 with the stopper above the mouth of the bottle, and then push the stopper down into the bottle and fill. You don't want to jam it in too hard, just enough so that the stopper compresses around the shaft on forms a seal. As you fill, the stopper will keep a small amount of back pressure in the bottle that helps to reduce foaming. If too much pressure builds up, it will break through the seal between the stopper and the shaft, so I didn't have any concerns of a bottle exploding.
You can see in the picture below that I only had about a 1/2 inch of foam when filling a bomber. It isn't a perfect solution, but it worked pretty well and I had MUCH less foam than when I have bottled in the past.

Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:56 am to Bleed P&G
That’s a good idea. I’ve been using my beer gun for uncarbonated sours and bottle conditioning because the foam was too great when transferring carbonated beer to the bottle.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:17 am to BugAC
Brewing tomorrow. Last brew day was in June. Brewing another blender saison batch. Fermenting with Belgian Saison II and Brett Brux. Hops are Strisselspalt, but mostly being used as a bittering hop.
2 gallons will be blended with 3 gallons of a year old mixed ferm saison. Souring components on the mixed ferm are a mixture of dregs and Bootleg Biology Mad Fermentationist saison blend, generation 2 or 3. This 50/50 sour/brett, sach. blend will be aged on about 3 lbs/gallon of rainier/dark sweet cherries. I hope to keep it on fruit for at least 2 or 3 months before bottling. That would put bottling of this batch in November/December.
2 gallons will be blended with 3 gallons of a year old mixed ferm saison. Souring components on the mixed ferm are a mixture of dregs and Bootleg Biology Mad Fermentationist saison blend, generation 2 or 3. This 50/50 sour/brett, sach. blend will be aged on about 3 lbs/gallon of rainier/dark sweet cherries. I hope to keep it on fruit for at least 2 or 3 months before bottling. That would put bottling of this batch in November/December.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:08 am to Bleed P&G
i do that with a picnic tap, stopper, and bottle filling tube. Basically you make a cheap counter pressure beer gun. you can jam it down on there and when it stops filling because of the pressure equalization you just use your thumb to push the stopper and it bleeds out some gas and continues to fill.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:09 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:00 am to BugAC
Going to brew for the first time tomorrow. My brother is giving me all of his equipment.
Going to swing by LA Homebrew for some supplies today, any advice on the yeast to get for a Double IPA?
Going to swing by LA Homebrew for some supplies today, any advice on the yeast to get for a Double IPA?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:14 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Going to swing by LA Homebrew for some supplies today, any advice on the yeast to get for a Double IPA?
Just ask someone there, they are get a shipment of stock today. Wyeast 1318 London Ale III is in stock and is the OG NEIPA yeast.
Other good ones are london Fog, and Coastal Haze from White Labs. They show out of stock online, but those 2 may be coming in today.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 10:21 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:33 am to BugAC
I kegged my simcoe dry-hopped APA 2 days ago. I was tired and lazy and chose to forgo a closed transfer on this one. I'm hoping that I won't regret that. Really excited to try this one, as I have hated drinking my NE-style Pale Ale. Honestly just tired of the hazy stuff, and looking for something drier and less filling. Loving the Kolsch I have on tap, but there isn't much left in the keg. Trying to plan out my next brew, preferably something that appeals to the masses like a blonde ale or a wheat ale.
My little birds have heard rumblings of a GeauxPack/Estimator Liverpool-themed collab in the works.
My little birds have heard rumblings of a GeauxPack/Estimator Liverpool-themed collab in the works.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:15 am to GeauxPack81
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I kegged my simcoe dry-hopped APA 2 days ago. I was tired and lazy and chose to forgo a closed transfer on this one. I'm hoping that I won't regret that.
You may be ok. If you recall, i had issues with my last closed transfer. Transferred 3.5 gallons into the keg and then the siphon just stopped working. I got pissed nad just upended the fermenter into the keg to finish it up. It's been kegged for about 6 weeks now, and is still drinking pretty good, but i think i may have lost a little hop aroma/flavor.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:40 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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any advice on the yeast to get for a Double IPA?
What kind of double IPA? If you're going for a good ol' fashion American IIPA, then 1056. You can't ever go wrong with 1056. If you're going for a bastard NEIIPA, use what Bug said.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:51 pm to BottomlandBrew
I think we have Ekuanot and Citra hops. So I guess it'd be more of a normal hopped up American pale ale.
Eta: Based on what my brother has made in the past (we're using his recipe because it's my first batch) it'll probably turn out to be a barleywine.
Eta: Based on what my brother has made in the past (we're using his recipe because it's my first batch) it'll probably turn out to be a barleywine.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 3:06 pm
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