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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:33 pm to CarRamrod
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:33 pm to CarRamrod
Well, just got back from a trip to the ER. Dropped a brew pot full of wort just taken off the heat, and the wort splashed all over my right side. Mostly 1st degree/borderline second degree burns on my right arm and leg and 3 hours in the ER later to learn a hard lesson.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:59 pm to BugAC
shite dude. Good luck with recovery
Posted on 7/7/18 at 8:07 pm to BugAC
Damn, Bug! Glad to hear it's not too terrible. That used to always be a fear of mine before I adjusted my setup to eliminate lifting of hot liquid.
Get well.
Get well.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 8:15 pm to BottomlandBrew
Yeah, I either need to rethink my setup or always have a brew partner on hand. I was at the end, about to cool down to steep temperature, when the incident happened. Got some pain meds and ointment. Could have been much worse. Thanks for the kind words.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 4:25 am to BugAC
Dude that’s terrible. We switching to an electric brewery mainly for that reason. We brew 10 gallon batches, shite gets heavy.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:16 pm to Bro Dad
Well, the whole problem was that I was trying to take the pot off the burner and then turn on the wort chiller. The thinking is that it would cool quicker if it was off the burner and on the ground. I probably should have a) put the chiller in the pot after I took it off the burner and b) not wear flip flops.
I think next time if I just leave the pot on the burner, and turn on the chiller at that point, I can avoid exposure to boiling hot liquid. But next brew day I will have help. May try to review this batch next weekend if I’m healing up nicely.
I think next time if I just leave the pot on the burner, and turn on the chiller at that point, I can avoid exposure to boiling hot liquid. But next brew day I will have help. May try to review this batch next weekend if I’m healing up nicely.
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:05 pm to BugAC
I burned the shite out of my calf carrying around the keggle when my pump was on the fritz. Integrate a pump into the mix to not be picking up heavy/hot liquids.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:21 pm to s14suspense
quote:
Integrate a pump into the mix to not be picking up heavy/hot liquids.
I did this about a year ago. It was life changing. I use to carry 7 gallons of boiling wort from one place to the other. Now I let the pump do the work.
The other benefit of having a pump is that you can recirculate the wort while you are chilling, which makes the wort cool faster due to the forced convection.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:47 pm to BugAC
quote:use the chiller outflow to cool off the red hot areas on the burner.
think next time if I just leave the pot on the burner, and turn on the chiller at that point, I can avoid exposure to boiling hot liquid
I bet Mrs. bug wasn't too happy.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:31 pm to Bleed P&G
quote:
The other benefit of having a pump is that you can recirculate the wort while you are chilling, which makes the wort cool faster due to the forced convection.
That's exactly what I do too.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:05 pm to s14suspense
So i'm putting together a shopping list of what i need to start using pumps. Let me know if i'm thinking this through correctly. Right now, i have a 2 - 10 gallons water cooler mash tun/sparge tank setup right now. I fly sparge. And i have a 9.5 gallon brewpot which i will be looking to upgrade to 15 gallon around christmas time or sooner. My burner is the Bayou Classic Kick A Banjo Burner. I also have a 25' pre chiller, and a 50' immersion wort chiller.
So my brew process currently starts this way.
ETA: This is now a shopping list to improve my brew steps.
I will bold the steps that i see could be beneficial to have a pump and minimize injury.
1. Heat up my strike water. Shut off heat, open ball valve into 1 gallon pitcher and transfer the water over one pitcher at a time until the water is low enough to lift the pot into the mash tun.
2. Add my grains to mash tun and stir.
3. 10 minutes before end of mash, heat up my sparge water. Use same process to transfer sparge water to sparge tank, as i do the mash (1 gal pitcher).
4. Vorlauf once end of mash.
5. Setup my vessels to drain to the brewpot. Usually consists of a chair sitting on top of a fold up table, with my sparge tank on that chair. Another chair on the ground, with the mash tun on that chair. And my brewpot on the cement.
6. Begin transferring wort to brew pot, and conducting the sparge.
7. Collect 7.25 to 8 gallons of wort (depending on beer).
8. Move full pot back onto the burner.
9. Boil wort.
10. Remove pot to the cement, add immersion chiller to the pot, hook up hose to chiller. Begin chiller.
11. Once wort is cooled down to about 80, put brew pot on top of table and place the fermenter on the cement. Add my strainers and funnel, and open the valve from my brewpot to my fermenter.
12. Move fermenter to fermenting freezer, chill to yeast pitch temps and pitch yeast.
13. Shake the shite out of the fermenter and let the yeast do the work.
So after typing all this out, i realize a few things.
1. Definitely need a pump.
2. I also need a brew stand.
3. An air pump wouldn't be a bad idea for oxygenating the wort.
4. A plate chiller would be nice
So in terms of pumping:
I would need to be able to pump strike water from kettle to mash tun.
I would also need to be able to pump strike water from kettle to sparge tank.
I can gravity feed my mash/sparge process if i have an appropriate brew stand.
I would need to be able to pump from my brewpot into my fermenter.
Thoughts?
So my brew process currently starts this way.
ETA: This is now a shopping list to improve my brew steps.
I will bold the steps that i see could be beneficial to have a pump and minimize injury.
1. Heat up my strike water. Shut off heat, open ball valve into 1 gallon pitcher and transfer the water over one pitcher at a time until the water is low enough to lift the pot into the mash tun.
2. Add my grains to mash tun and stir.
3. 10 minutes before end of mash, heat up my sparge water. Use same process to transfer sparge water to sparge tank, as i do the mash (1 gal pitcher).
4. Vorlauf once end of mash.
5. Setup my vessels to drain to the brewpot. Usually consists of a chair sitting on top of a fold up table, with my sparge tank on that chair. Another chair on the ground, with the mash tun on that chair. And my brewpot on the cement.
6. Begin transferring wort to brew pot, and conducting the sparge.
7. Collect 7.25 to 8 gallons of wort (depending on beer).
8. Move full pot back onto the burner.
9. Boil wort.
10. Remove pot to the cement, add immersion chiller to the pot, hook up hose to chiller. Begin chiller.
11. Once wort is cooled down to about 80, put brew pot on top of table and place the fermenter on the cement. Add my strainers and funnel, and open the valve from my brewpot to my fermenter.
12. Move fermenter to fermenting freezer, chill to yeast pitch temps and pitch yeast.
13. Shake the shite out of the fermenter and let the yeast do the work.
So after typing all this out, i realize a few things.
1. Definitely need a pump.
2. I also need a brew stand.
3. An air pump wouldn't be a bad idea for oxygenating the wort.
4. A plate chiller would be nice
So in terms of pumping:
I would need to be able to pump strike water from kettle to mash tun.
I would also need to be able to pump strike water from kettle to sparge tank.
I can gravity feed my mash/sparge process if i have an appropriate brew stand.
I would need to be able to pump from my brewpot into my fermenter.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:07 pm to BugAC
quote:
I would also need to be able to pump strike water from kettle to sparge tank.
I can gravity feed my mash/sparge process if i have an appropriate brew stand.
When you upgrade to the larger kettle you can use your old kettle as an HLT and pump hot water directly into the mash tun.
quote:
3. An air pump wouldn't be a bad idea for oxygenating the wort.
Agreed. Or you can haunt Craigslist and try to find an oxygen tank for sale. I found one full of oxygen and it's more than I'll ever use in 5 lifetimes of brewing. Don't get one of the little medical ones though.
quote:
4. A plate chiller would be nice
I love mine. It will take wort from 175°F down to 60-65°F. Your tap water probably isn't as cold as mine but you have a pre-chiller.
You'll have to decide what kind of connections you want to use. Mine are QD but a lot of people like the cam locks. Carefully think through your process and figure out what length hoses you'll need for each step along the way. Silicone tubing isn't crazy expensive but it's not cheap either. You'll also need to figure out where to put valves. At minimum, you'll need one on the pump(s) and probably one on the kettle and the HLT (old kettle).
Also be aware that if you pump boiling water through the pumps, they will likely cavitate (mine do). That will limit the speed with which you can pump. This mostly just impacts the end of the boil where I circulate through the plate chiller back to the kettle to sterilize everything. Then I chill down to about 175 for the whirlpool after flameout.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:42 am to MountainTiger
Yeah I'm looking to move from an immersion chiller to a plate... Who do you handle beers with a lot of hot side hops? A few times I have had my pump clog. So now I either add hops very slowly bro insure the pellets break up. Or I use a hop basket.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:36 am to BugAC
You could bold 90% of those steps.
You also don't need a brew stand at all once you have a pump. No need to be moving anything around once they are full.
I went to go type out a new list for you based off of how I do it with 1 pump but know you're probably stuck on "fly sparging" so I'm not sure it's worth trying to explain a better way to do your processes.
I'll explain my way and you might gain some insights.
1. Heat strike water and pump/drain into mash tun.
2. Mash
3. During the mash I'll do a light recirculation for a few minutes at a time to get ready to pump over to kettle.
4. Heat sparge water and either pump this into mash tun that has enough room for all the water or pump mash to kettle and then add sparge water.
4a. Start heating up wort
5. Recirc mash until it runs clear and then pump that to kettle.
6. Boil
7. Recirc boil for last 15 minutes or so to sanitize everything.
8. Run pump outflow over coils of immersion chiller to help speed up cooling process. This also aerates wort.
9. I use a pond pump to recirc Ice water through chiller coils while whirlpooling to get to pitching temps.
10. Pump directly into fermenter.
Mash tun can stay on ground. Kettle stays on burner.
You also don't need a brew stand at all once you have a pump. No need to be moving anything around once they are full.
I went to go type out a new list for you based off of how I do it with 1 pump but know you're probably stuck on "fly sparging" so I'm not sure it's worth trying to explain a better way to do your processes.
I'll explain my way and you might gain some insights.
1. Heat strike water and pump/drain into mash tun.
2. Mash
3. During the mash I'll do a light recirculation for a few minutes at a time to get ready to pump over to kettle.
4. Heat sparge water and either pump this into mash tun that has enough room for all the water or pump mash to kettle and then add sparge water.
4a. Start heating up wort
5. Recirc mash until it runs clear and then pump that to kettle.
6. Boil
7. Recirc boil for last 15 minutes or so to sanitize everything.
8. Run pump outflow over coils of immersion chiller to help speed up cooling process. This also aerates wort.
9. I use a pond pump to recirc Ice water through chiller coils while whirlpooling to get to pitching temps.
10. Pump directly into fermenter.
Mash tun can stay on ground. Kettle stays on burner.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 9:44 am to CarRamrod
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:15 pm to s14suspense
Yeah, Batch sparge is the way to go with Bug's current hardware plus a new pump.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 9:10 am to BottomlandBrew
Got a pump ready for purchase hoping it gets a price cut when prime day starts.
I did some sour beer tasting Saturday.
Sour #1 - Bootleg biology mad fermentationist saison with Jester King dregs on French Oak - been aging for 14 months now. FG 1.010, ph 3.11 - great lemony citrus taste. A little on the acidic side but tastes great. Wish it was drier however. This one will not be fruited. I will blend this one with 1/2 to 1 gallon of new beer and let it age for an additional 2 months. Went to remove the oak spiral when i was measuring and the floss snapped, so now i have an oak spiral laying at the bottom of the fermenter. So after i rebrew my ipa that will be renamed to 2nd degree IPA, i'll have to hurry up and brew a saison for blending so i don't get too much oak flavor.
Sour #2 - Bootleg Biology Sour Solera 2016 blend on French oak - 14 months old - FG 1.012 ph 3.10 - Nice fruity taste with more of the barnyard funk. This one seems like a good candidate for Peaches or Apricots. This one will also be blended with some new beer. Don't really want to bottle either of these 2 with such high FG.
Sour #3 - Built up dregs from my very first mixed ferm farmhouse saison w/ some Crooked Stave and Jester King dregs - 5 months old - FG 1.005 3.27 ph - very nice flavor. Deeper acidity and funk than the original. This one will not be fruited. Really cool that i did not innoculate this with anything other than my reserved built up dregs and it finished so low.
Sour #4 - Built up Wicked Weed dregs - 5 months old - FG 1.006 3.17 ph - deep acidity with some barnyard funk. I may put blackberries/blueberries on this one.
I did some sour beer tasting Saturday.
Sour #1 - Bootleg biology mad fermentationist saison with Jester King dregs on French Oak - been aging for 14 months now. FG 1.010, ph 3.11 - great lemony citrus taste. A little on the acidic side but tastes great. Wish it was drier however. This one will not be fruited. I will blend this one with 1/2 to 1 gallon of new beer and let it age for an additional 2 months. Went to remove the oak spiral when i was measuring and the floss snapped, so now i have an oak spiral laying at the bottom of the fermenter. So after i rebrew my ipa that will be renamed to 2nd degree IPA, i'll have to hurry up and brew a saison for blending so i don't get too much oak flavor.
Sour #2 - Bootleg Biology Sour Solera 2016 blend on French oak - 14 months old - FG 1.012 ph 3.10 - Nice fruity taste with more of the barnyard funk. This one seems like a good candidate for Peaches or Apricots. This one will also be blended with some new beer. Don't really want to bottle either of these 2 with such high FG.
Sour #3 - Built up dregs from my very first mixed ferm farmhouse saison w/ some Crooked Stave and Jester King dregs - 5 months old - FG 1.005 3.27 ph - very nice flavor. Deeper acidity and funk than the original. This one will not be fruited. Really cool that i did not innoculate this with anything other than my reserved built up dregs and it finished so low.
Sour #4 - Built up Wicked Weed dregs - 5 months old - FG 1.006 3.17 ph - deep acidity with some barnyard funk. I may put blackberries/blueberries on this one.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 5:40 pm to BugAC
We'll have a Spike brewing 15 gallon kettle for sale in the future. Works really good for 10 gallon batches, 5 gallon batches are below the temperature probe though.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:13 am to Bro Dad
My strawberry wine is moving through secondary, planning on racking it in the next week or so. I've read that I should put in a few campden tablets after doing so. My question is : Do I just crush the tablets and throw them into the carboy? or should I dissolve them into a small sample of wine, then dump that back into the carboy?
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