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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 7/3/18 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 2:50 pm to
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Don't have a lid for the stainless bucket, so i'm going to put a stainless 90 inside so it doesn't splash out.


id be worried with having to monitor the flow out if you dont have it sealed. i am building a filter system to put inline between kegs when im trying to filter out hop particles before i serve for partied. And i have though about using a mesh screen to push over fresh hops before too.

using this. LINK I wonder hoe hot i can use this plastic. I use an immersion chiller right now but plan to move to a plate chiller at some point so i will be able to use the hot work to do stuf with.


Hey do you think you are getting most of your hop flavor from whirlpooling or the dryhopping? Im getting lazy and hate whirlpooling and trying to talk myself into thinking of other ways to do this. and pumping over a hopback like this would work.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 3:07 pm to
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id be worried with having to monitor the flow out if you dont have it sealed.


Didn't think about that. I was just planning to monitor it. I was going to put a mesh screen on the bottom so the hops don't plug the whole, then add the hops, then a sink strainer inside to filter out some of the trub. I'll see how the first attempt goes. If it's a pain, i'll just have to find a stainless bucket that has a seal.

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Hey do you think you are getting most of your hop flavor from whirlpooling or the dryhopping? Im getting lazy and hate whirlpooling and trying to talk myself into thinking of other ways to do this. and pumping over a hopback like this would work.


I don't know. Probably from the dry hopping. I made too many changes at one time to narrow down what emphasized the hop aroma/flavor more. I think the biotrans definitely impacted the hop flavor. Whirlpool, to a degree. I'm trying to figure out what the law of diminishing returns is with my NEIPA's. My problem, is i don't change just 1 thing at a time, when i try to perfect my beer.

My first modifications have been with getting better mouthfeel. I'm not big on the overly grainy/minerally bite that some NEIPA's have. So i adjusted my salts to a more neutral slightly malty water profile, as opposed to a largely malty profile. I then started pulling back on the oats/wheat/etc... So far, i like what the result has been, but the beer hasn't been as big on aroma as i'd like, so thus the new tinkering with the hops.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 3:13 pm to
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CarRamrod


Have you upgraded to a HERMS system yet, or still using direct fire?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29810 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 3:46 pm to
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It's late this year right?


Yeah. I'm wondering if they aren't going to release it since they have their vault system now.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:15 am to
I sent them a message yesterday and here is their response:

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Hey LoneStarTiger,

Unfortunately, we do not have plans on releasing this strain this year. Cheers!


frick. Now I need a new idea for a saison yeast to use
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29810 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:42 pm to
Bummer.

Brewed a saison today.

10 lbs Pils
1.5 lbs Munich
2 oz Hallertau at 60
2 oz Hallertau at 20
1 oz Hallertau at 1
3724/3711 at ambient in garage

Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43074 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 4:35 pm to
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Now I need a new idea for a saison yeast to use


#metoo
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 5:27 pm to
Think I’ll go with 3724 and Belle and Hallertau Blanc hops
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16813 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:54 am to
Berliner Weisse on 8 pounds of raspberries, blackberries and blueberries. This keg won’t last long.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 10:08 am to
still using direct fire. idk if im going to go to a herms or RIMS. But you never know.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 10:09 am to
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3724/3711 at ambient in garage

i forget if you are in SLA or not, but i see that thermometer at 95 degrees.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29810 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 12:13 pm to
I'm in Nashville. The garage peaked around 105 yesterday. Last time I fermented in the garage during similar conditions, the liquid stayed pretty steady in the upper 80s. It cools off enough at night to keep the liquid from going 90+ or so.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:12 pm to
found a pot with a locking lid. It has been used a good bit on the HB forums. Im going to pick one up.

LINK

here is one of the threads. I dont like this guys design but i like the pot.
LINK
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:32 pm to
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3724/3711 at ambient in garage


you pitch these together or give one a head start?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

found a pot with a locking lid. It has been used a good bit on the HB forums. Im going to pick one up.



Looks like i won't be using the hop back this weekend. Turns out, stainless fittings aren't easy to find.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29810 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 5:37 pm to
I co-pitched a starter of 3724 and a packet of 3711 the first batch. The subsequent batches have utilized harvested yeast, so proportions are all whack and unknown. This batch is the 3rd gen of the mix.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:40 am to
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I co-pitched a starter of 3724 and a packet of 3711 the first batch. The subsequent batches have utilized harvested yeast, so proportions are all whack and unknown. This batch is the 3rd gen of the mix.



What sort of flavor profiles are you getting from this co-pitch? I would think the 3711 would dominate the batch, considering how aggressive it is.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:02 am to
I probably wont feel much like making a starter so I will probably pitch the 3724, wait for the stall and add the belle
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29810 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:27 am to
Last batch was pretty peppery, and that was gen 2. Most of the fruit flavor came from the nelson and hallertau blanc. And now that I think harder about it, it may have been Belle Saison instead of 3711. I can't remember. It's been 2 or 3 months. Doesn't matter as they're both "Thiriez," but the dry would have had a longer lag time while the 3724 did the heavy lifting on gen 1. That point is now moot as it's all liquid I pitched in gen 2 and gen 3.



Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:09 pm to
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Looks like i won't be using the hop back this weekend. Turns out, stainless fittings aren't easy to find.

nope. you have to know a specialty shop and i dont know of one. barganfittings is the cheapest place i have found
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