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Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Hop bags dude.


I'm not doing another IPA without this
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:21 pm to

ok, let me run this Berliner Weisse plan by y'all to make sure I'm thinking right

going to use 50% white wheat and 50% pilsen
Beersmith is calling for a 75 minute mash at 150 -going to drop that to 148
mash and sparge into a spare cooler I have and pitch lacto or grain
Let this go until the desired sourness is achieved
transfer to the kettle, boil for 15 minutes, adding the hops at this time
cool, pitch yeast like any other beer
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:25 pm to
The process you've outlined is very similar to mine. I added the additional steps I used in my last batch.

So far it's the best results I've had, I'll probably boil tomorrow.

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going to use 50% white wheat and 50% pilsen
Beersmith is calling for a 75 minute mash at 150

After mash is complete and before you start collecting wort; use Acidulated malt to drop mash ph to 4.5. This pH drop will prevent some of the nastier bacteria from establishing themself in your wort

Run off into a spare cooler, wait for temperature to drop to 110F, and pitch crushed grain in hop bags.

Purge cooler with CO2 to inhibit acetobacter and other bacteria that like aerobic environments.

Let this go until the desired sourness is achieved
transfer to the kettle, boil for 15 minutes, adding the hops at this time

cool, pitch yeast like any other beer
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:25 pm to
with 50% wheat you better add a good bit of rice hulls or you will be waiting for hours for that to drain.

Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:31 pm to
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with 50% wheat you better add a good bit of rice hulls or you will be waiting for hours for that to drain.


+1000 Mashing with wheat without rice hulls is a recipe for a stuck mash and an infinitely frustrating brew day.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:35 pm to
I think the Sherpas are boycotting this year's everest climbing season.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

add a good bit of rice hulls


what's a "good bit"?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:38 pm to
Honestly, I have never heard of anyone using more than 30-40% white wheat but you would definitely need at least 1 lb rice hulls mixed in.

It'll seem like a lot of hulls, but it is likely necessary. The wheat will pack together very thick and not drain if it is in that high of a quantity.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:47 pm to
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what's a "good bit"?


I use somewhere between .5 and 1 lb in my American wheat beers and they are about 45% wheat.

I'd lean closer to 1 lb, better to many rice hulls than dealing with a stuck mash.

Also rice hulls suck up quite a bit of water, make sure to account for this in you mash water calculations.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:04 pm to
using a brewers friend calculator, I came up with this:

3.25 lbs Pilsen
3.25 lb White Wheat
1.5 lb rice hulls

mash at 148 for 60 minutes
add 1 lb Acid malt
batch sparge
cool to 110, pitch crushed grain (just normal 2-row here? 4 oz enough?)

let sour to taste

here is where I run into a potential issue:

my cooler for this is 5 gallons. I plan to collect 4.5 gallons of wort, then top off with water when I boil for a 6.5 gallon batch. Will there be a loss of sugars doing this? (Lower OG?) I could just drain into the kettle I guess.

15 minute boil
1 oz 4.5% AA hops at 7 minutes (4.3 IBU)
cool, then pitch Wyeast 3333 German Wheat
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:14 pm to
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(just normal 2-row here? 4 oz enough?)


I used roughly 1 lb, but I have zero clue what is necessary. Some say 'handful' of grains is more than enough.

quote:

my cooler for this is 5 gallons. I plan to collect 4.5 gallons of wort, then top off with water when I boil for a 6.5 gallon batch. Will there be a loss of sugars doing this? (Lower OG?) I could just drain into the kettle I guess.


Topping off with water will lower you OG, but you can always add a pound or two of DME to the boil to raise your gravity back to the original level.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:22 pm to
I've never used them but cant imagine needing 1.5 lbs of rice hulls with only 3.25 lbs of wheat. I will back that down to .5 lbs of hulls
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Topping off with water will lower you OG, but you can always add a pound or two of DME to the boil to raise your gravity back to the original level.


I guess what I am asking, and what I'm not sure Beersmith calculates correctly, is what the difference in OG would be if I sparge with 3.1 gallons rather than 5.6 gallons. How much more sugar is being collected by that last 2.5 gallons of water used in the sparge?
Posted by DR Hops
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Hop bags dude.


Doesn't hop bags kill utilization?
Posted by DR Hops
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:33 pm to
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I use a 24"x24" grain bag and drape it over the side of my boil kettle. Put all my hops in the bag. I can pick it up during boiling and swish it around/ dunk it.


This may be the best way to go and save your utilization. If i get a bag that will fit the width of my kettle, then my utilization won't be stifled by small hop bags.
Posted by DR Hops
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:38 pm to
So here's my recipe for my honey kolsch i'll be brewing next. I'll update the recipe thread once i actually brew it, as the recipe may change.

Slurred Bee Honey Kolsch
50% Pilsen Malt
25% 2-row
10% Honey Malt
5% Dextrine
5% White Wheat
1.5 oz. Tettnang 60 minutes
WLP029 German Ale/Kolsch Yeast
8-16 oz. Pure locally sourced bee honey

I just now thought about adding some flaked oats to aid in mouth feel. What are the homebrewer's thoughts on the oats for this particular brew?
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 4:45 pm
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:26 pm to


This is what I got so far. How's it look? Anyone see anything worth adding?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:47 pm to
When I think kölsch, I don't think mouthfeel. I want crisp.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:55 am to
So I left beer smith open last night, came back to print and my laptop rebooted. Lost all 3 recipes I had
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 7:04 am to
Looks really cool!
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