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re: Getting burned out on Haze (beer)
Posted on 6/20/20 at 9:23 am to BugAC
Posted on 6/20/20 at 9:23 am to BugAC
Haze sells and until it doesn't I don't think you will see anything change.... The amount of people wanting a crisp pilsner isn't enough to keep it on tap for the several weeks/months it would take to drain a keg. Not when you can run 3-5 different haze beers during the same time frame....
Like Glock said I drink a ton of hazy beers but sometimes I need something different and go with a more traditional style such as a lager or pilsner for a couple of days. Then I'm back to hazey beers, last summer spending time in San Diego a lot of the west coast style beers I had were still hazy. However a few more of the traditional ones that were a great change of pace.
I recently had a Heady Topper and looking at it next to a Ghost is like night and day now consider it was clearer than Ghost
Like Glock said I drink a ton of hazy beers but sometimes I need something different and go with a more traditional style such as a lager or pilsner for a couple of days. Then I'm back to hazey beers, last summer spending time in San Diego a lot of the west coast style beers I had were still hazy. However a few more of the traditional ones that were a great change of pace.
I recently had a Heady Topper and looking at it next to a Ghost is like night and day now consider it was clearer than Ghost
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 9:24 am
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 7:35 pm to BugAC
Not surprised to see the downvotes, but I agree with you 100%.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 5:04 am to BottomlandBrew
I found some 2 week old New Belgium Shift the other day and it was f'n fantastic!!
Posted on 6/21/20 at 7:06 am to BugAC
I think I agree with you. One is my favorite IPAs locally right now is Road House by Tin Roof because it's a great mix of West coast and hazy. It stands out among the crowded hazy backdrop because it has some punch to it.
About 6 months ago I went on a pilsner kick after having that Burial pilsner, and I think that was for a similar reason. I love the hazy IPAs but they're so ubiquitous and overdone that you might get burnt out from time to time.
My days of seeking out the 4XDH and stuff are behind me, I'm more interested in what can I find in the grocery store these days. I don't think I've encountered the hop burn.
About 6 months ago I went on a pilsner kick after having that Burial pilsner, and I think that was for a similar reason. I love the hazy IPAs but they're so ubiquitous and overdone that you might get burnt out from time to time.
My days of seeking out the 4XDH and stuff are behind me, I'm more interested in what can I find in the grocery store these days. I don't think I've encountered the hop burn.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 7:11 am
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:14 am to BugAC
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Another haze beer I really miss, was a ghost in the machine early batch. It was so dank that it smelled almost like weed. I specifically remember it because we were heading to a buddy’s bachelor party in lake chuck and stopped by parish along the way. I picked up a growler and a few 4-packs. I want to say it was batch 12 or something. This may have been pre-new yeast, so about 4 years ago? Between that and the hop explorer from Whole Foods
Agree. Ghost at one point and time had that perfect juice and dank balance. Whole Foods when they had that really good head brewer (think he's at Urban South HTX now??) brewed some fantastic IPAs. They had one summer where they brewed a different DIPA each week, some hazy, some not, and they were pretty much all delicious.
Now there's 7500 breweries all putting out a haze beer that you can't tell the difference from one to the other, and while Ghost is better than those, it certainly is not as distinguishable as before. I don't know if that's expected when something grows so quickly from seasonal to mass distribution?? I know almost zero about brewing beer, so I really don't know.
I'll grab Ghost in the store every now and then, but with it being $12/four pack vs. Art Car at $8/sixer, Double Art Car at $12/sixer, and MiniBawce at $10/sixer...I find myself reaching for the Houston hops on a much more regular basis.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:09 pm to ragincajun03
I didn't ready much of the article but true NEIPA is still my favorite beer. And I have yet to have a commercial version that comes close to the best ones I have brewed. I have made some stinkers too. But I do agree that most breweries that try to put all these NEIPAs out really don't have a clue or a direction they want to go besides being up with the craze.
If I ever get my brewery off the ground I would plan to have 2 or 3 NEIPAs on tap. One that is light yellow colored with heavily lemon citrus flavor, and one that is more orange color with more traditional stone fruit, passion fruit flavors. I have made both and continue to dial them in. I have another one that is a mix in the color, darker yellow, that has more of a floral flavor than pure citrus. But it is hit or miss.
If I ever get my brewery off the ground I would plan to have 2 or 3 NEIPAs on tap. One that is light yellow colored with heavily lemon citrus flavor, and one that is more orange color with more traditional stone fruit, passion fruit flavors. I have made both and continue to dial them in. I have another one that is a mix in the color, darker yellow, that has more of a floral flavor than pure citrus. But it is hit or miss.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:31 am to BugAC
While I'm not completely burned out on NEIPA's, I am burned out on trying new ones. I've had so many bad ones over the last year or two, I just stick to the ones I know I like.
I do agree though that there isn't a whole lot of difference in flavor of the ones I really like. I am more partial to certain hop varieties, but I also think the style doesn't lend itself to much variation in taste.
I do agree though that there isn't a whole lot of difference in flavor of the ones I really like. I am more partial to certain hop varieties, but I also think the style doesn't lend itself to much variation in taste.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:38 am to BugAC
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Getting burned out on Haze (beer)
I agree. I like them, but have grown tired of New England and lactose added IPAs. Give me a piney, West Coast IPA any day of the week.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:49 am to BugAC
I have to agree. While I still like hazy IPA's, I'm definitely starting to burn out. I went to NOLA a couple of weeks ago to grab some BBQ for lunch and I just didn't want any hazy or milkshake IPA's. I ordered a plain old Hopitoulas. I took one sip and thought, "Oh yeah, West coast style IPA's use to be my favorite beer!" I'll still grab some hazys but my most common purchases lately have been St Arnold Art Car and pilsners from Parleaux.
I keep wanting to pick up some Sierra Nevada Torpedo but everywhere I find it, it is at least 4 months old.
I keep wanting to pick up some Sierra Nevada Torpedo but everywhere I find it, it is at least 4 months old.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:17 am to BugAC
I have been enjoying the Dixie Voodoo Queen lately. It is a hazy, but not an over the top style NEIPA.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:13 am to GentleJackJones
quote:eewwww gross
Give me a piney, West Coast IPA any day of the week.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:34 am to TheDude
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pilsners from Parleaux
These have been nothing short of fantastic. The German and Czech pilsners were amazing. The helles lager was amazing. Did not get to try the Italian or American pilsners.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:30 pm to Tigerlaff
The Italian pilsner was good but almost a let down after the Czech. That Czech pilsner was flat out amazing.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:09 am to TheDude
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The Italian pilsner was good but almost a let down after the Czech. That Czech pilsner was flat out amazing.
It was better than any pilsner I had in Pilsen. Amazing.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:15 am to Upperdecker
quote:i always though Nova Vert and Bloom were GITM batches that just tasted different. So they rebranded it.
Parish perfectly describes the issues in the OP. Heavy emphasis and reliance on hazy IPAs with DDH 3DDH 4DDH, purée beers, almost no differentiation in their offerings, too much advertisement of hop varieties, and generally lack the ability to make anything else
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