re: Freakonomics podcast on expensive wines: you're all full of s$%&

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That I don't think the difference between a $200 bottle of wine and a $15k bottle of wine is as large as the difference between a $4 bottle of wine and a $13.99 bottle of wine. I don't think they're all on the same proportionate dollar scale or a normalized distribution at all.

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Yeah that I probably agree with

I think you have to just ask yourself the simple question: how good can something be? There is no such thing as a bottle of wine that is thousands of dollars worth of goodness.

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See, this is the kind of shite that is in your head

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You dispute that the introduction of air into a young wine changes the taste and nose?

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That I don't think the difference between a $200 bottle of wine and a $15k bottle of wine is as large as the difference between a $4 bottle of wine and a $13.99 bottle of wine. I don't think they're all on the same proportionate dollar scale or a normalized distribution at all.

Yeah that I probably agree with

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This is true of almost everything I can think of. Jeans - going from KMart to Levi's gives you far more increased quality per dollar than going from Levi's to Lucky. Cars - Going from $5K to $10K will make a world of difference in quality and reliability. Going from $40K to $45K maybe just gets you a better speaker system and heated seats.

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And my argument is that a lot of people might notice a difference precisely because the more expensive wine IS often given better care than the cheap wine.

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I've had $20 wine that was in good hands. Still not as good as some more expensive wines I've had.

I guess, yall have semi convinced me or at least made me realize that price isn't the gauge for how good a wine is. I've had wines that were over $100 a bottle that I hated. I've had wines under $20 that I've loved.

For me, i don't care about price b/c I'm never the one paying for it. As long as it tastes good to me, I drink it, and even if it's a $100 bottle sometimes I pass.

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Congrats. You can do math.

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Ah. Turn to ad hom when you got nothing left. got it.

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Yes I can.

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Tell the difference between 12 and 18? You most certainly cannot.

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I've attended a tasting where we were to decide if beer or wine went better with different cheeses. The beer won.

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Of course. Hops > Grapes

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Ah. Turn to ad hom when you got nothing left. got it.

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Because you have SO much. You just keep repeating "no, you can't."

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Tell the difference between 12 and 18? You most certainly cannot.

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Yes, I can.

I still haven't been challenged on my theory. Most expensive wines are typically made for aging, while more less expensive wines are typically meant for drinking young. (this doesn't include countries with cheap land like argentina, south africa, some central europe)

Agree?

If yes, then we will go ahead and say if a 1 year old table wine was compared with a 1 year old Bordeaux, Burgandy, or even a Cabernet Sauvignon from California from a good vintage that was made for aging 10-25 years or even more...then the table wine will probably win. It is being drank at its peak while the others are still at least a decade out of their peak.

editted, waiting for your approval/disapproval