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Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:45 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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ETA: I'm not mad at a restaurant making sure their staff is being taken care of, especially right now. I actually wish more restaurants would do this.
Something is telling me the restaurant has it within their power to take care of their employees. Hmm, let me see, what could it be. Oh yeah, pay them more money!
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:49 pm to andouille
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Can I get an over/under on how long this policy lasts? It seems that at most of the ones that try it, it's pretty short lived.
At sit down establishments, yes it is short lived. That's because servers average at least 20% as it currently stands.
At Turkey and the Wolf, being counter service, 15% service charge distributed to employees is probably a raise. So I wouldn't be surprised if they keep it around long term.
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Hmm, let me see, what could it be. Oh yeah, pay them more money!
That's exactly what this is. Are you mad at the semantics of it being a service charge instead of bumping each item by 15%? What difference does it make, really? What a really weird hill to die on.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:54 pm to Rouge
OK
So, I am picking up $50 worth of food from these fools and they tax me an additional $7.50 to supplant their lack of ability to pay their employees what they “want” to pay them I have a problem with this.
I usually throw a few bucks in for pickup but not 15% , frick that.
And if you think they can bump their food cost 15-20% and people would not notice I disagree ..in additional, bump 15% and then the tip comes into play again. Hmmm
So, I am picking up $50 worth of food from these fools and they tax me an additional $7.50 to supplant their lack of ability to pay their employees what they “want” to pay them I have a problem with this.
I usually throw a few bucks in for pickup but not 15% , frick that.
And if you think they can bump their food cost 15-20% and people would not notice I disagree ..in additional, bump 15% and then the tip comes into play again. Hmmm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:55 pm to BlackenedOut
quote:There are two types of countries, baw. Those that use the metric system and those that put a man on the moon.
. If it works for millions of restaurants elsewhere, it can work here. Like the metric system.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:59 pm to LouisianaLady
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LouisianaLady
So now that first 15% is always taxed.
That has a potential for issues.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:03 pm to t00f
I kinda doubt Mason is rolling in dough while his employees suffer, hence the charge so he can pay them more. Restaurants have famously thin margins. If y'all aren't okay with a service charge and you're also not okay with 15% bump in prices, then how do y'all propose they pay their employees an hourly rate? Or do we just not think they should get a bump in pay?
Supporting businesses that treat their employees well comes at a cost. Its the same reason cheap clothing is made by sweatshop workers and child slaves, and clothing made in good conditions is more expensive.
Supporting businesses that treat their employees well comes at a cost. Its the same reason cheap clothing is made by sweatshop workers and child slaves, and clothing made in good conditions is more expensive.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:04 pm to Epaminondas
quote:What do they do besides pose?
They're also fanatical BLM. They say that if you have any uncertainty about whether you align with the BLM movement, this restaurant is not for you.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:05 pm to LouisianaLady
So Mason is underpaying his employees what other restaurants in the areas are paying?
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:05 pm to LouisianaLady
I dislike them announcing they are adding 15% or 5% to help their employees.
They aren't doing shite. I am footing that bill. But they are claiming they are taking on the hardship.
They aren't doing shite. I am footing that bill. But they are claiming they are taking on the hardship.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:06 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:this is how europe works ... And it is great.
Plenty of restaurants have done it then gone back.
Shitty servers here expect a good tip for shitty service.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:07 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:but he is not paying them more. He is saying "if you want to eat here, you have to help pay my employees."
hence the charge so he can pay them more
Nearly every other industry prices their product to include the costs of running the business.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:10 pm to t00f
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So Mason is underpaying his employees what other restaurants in the areas are paying?
He wants to give his employees a raise, which is certainly something reasonable for a business owner to decide to do. Especially since most of those employees have been with him for a long time. You get a raise in almost any other industry when you've been there long term.
Most likely, they made around $12/hour. FOH got tips on top of that, but I'm sure very little considering it isn't full service.
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Nearly every other industry prices their product to include the costs of running the business.
I don't disagree. But as mentioned previously, people have historically stopped patronizing places that raise their prices above competitors. Whereas they don't really notice/care when there's a fee.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:11 pm to LouisianaLady
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That's exactly what this is. Are you mad at the semantics of it being a service charge instead of bumping each item by 15%? What difference does it make, really? What a really weird hill to die on.
It's just something to do with shifting the responsibility of taking care of your employees. Mandating a service charge because people don't tip at a self service restaurant. Hmm, pretty crappy. If you really cared about your employees as an owner you'd adjust your pricing, try to cut some costs in spots, and increase the payroll.
Yeah, it's semantics. But it's also reeks of the semantics of those places that charge an extra service fee for those that use plastic to pay. It's a cost of doing business, like payroll, figure it out without making your customers feel guilty.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:13 pm to fightin tigers
That’s an odd technicality, but maybe I’m not understanding your point. Of course you are funding them, it’s a restaurant. Where else does the money come from except the guests? They are simply choosing to allocate the money in such a way that it goes to their staff as opposed to an across the board price increase that isn’t explicitly and transparently accounted for.
It’s odd that they are doing it as a service charge, but I trust/assume there’s probably a reason for that.
It’s odd that they are doing it as a service charge, but I trust/assume there’s probably a reason for that.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:15 pm to SoDakHawk
If someone bitches about higher prices then they are somewhat justified for saying something is too expensive, especially given the service hasn't changed.
If you bitch about the service charge to help poor servers you are just seen as an a-hole complaining poor people are getting more.
If you bitch about the service charge to help poor servers you are just seen as an a-hole complaining poor people are getting more.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:16 pm to SoDakHawk
I honestly think a lot of restaurant owners believe that doing the fee will make them more transparent and appeal to people's human emotions vs. just raising prices without explanation.
Totally fair to not agree or to find it virtue signal-y, but I guess it just seems like an odd place to draw the line to me.
Totally fair to not agree or to find it virtue signal-y, but I guess it just seems like an odd place to draw the line to me.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:17 pm to LouisianaLady
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You get a raise in almost any other industry when you've been there long term.
Wrong
You get a raise when your value to the organization increases, thus increasing the revenue of the business.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:18 pm to Matisyeezy
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It’s odd that they are doing it as a service charge, but I trust/assume there’s probably a reason for that.
Better marketing than just raising prices. Instead of it being more expensive you are reminded that they are being good employers.
In exchange the restaurant gets better employees and the customer can't really bitch without looking cruel.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:18 pm to Rouge
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Wrong
shite they keep giving me raises but I’m less valuable by the year, I think
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