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re: Choose my Christmas wines

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Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:36 am to
“Austin Hope”

Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.
Posted by daberryballer
West of da Berry
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:38 am to
The Calling Pinot, Scouts Honor by Venge, Mount Veeder 2018 Cab, WillaKenzie Pinot williamett valley 2018, Ziata 2017 Cab....5 keepers ....
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.



I like Austin Hope but a lot of traditionalists don't.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:23 pm to
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4. Red Schooner Voyage 9 Malbec (made by the Wagner family that makes Caymus) - about $55 (can be bought for less if you look around)


My favorite wine. I'll drink it over literally anything else one could offer.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:01 pm to
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I like Austin Hope but a lot of traditionalists don't.


Why?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:50 pm to
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Why?



Same reason they don't like Wagner wines or many of the big, bold, overripe, etc. wines coming out of CA that lack good structure or complexity. The typical complaint is that many wine producers cover up winemaking flaws with that "crowd pleaser" bold cali red style (fruitbombs), although I don't think AH is in that category. I think it's well made and a "good" wine for what is, but it's true that it's modern style. I'm a fan of more traditional cabs in a restrained style, but I like AH within the category just fine.

This board loves Wagner and similar wines, and is pretty reflective of the wine drinking public I think. And the offerings of Cali wineries reflect that, it's now the predominate style.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:57 pm to
Ah. Got you. Thank you for the explanation.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Caymus, Prisoner, Artemis, Papillon, Belle Glos Clark & Telephone


Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87726 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:00 pm to
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wutangfinancial


Come on now

You have to keep some juice boxes on hand for the kids
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

“Austin Hope”

Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.





OP needs to buy 50 bottles of Matchbook to make it a real vacation IMO
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:06 pm to
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You have to keep some juice boxes on hand for the kids



I knew somebody would like that

This guy can load up on just about any premium wine and people are suggesting to go with the $75 version of Welch's grape juice.

If he prefers Cali he should do something more fun like buy all the different Ridge Zins which are grade A in quality and half the price.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:34 pm to
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people are suggesting to go with the $75 version of Welch's grape juice.


yes, I appreciate the input nonetheless

I do love Napa Cabs, but probably 50% of my weekly bottles are old world. I love Spanish wine and am also a sucker for chateauneuf du pape.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87726 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

If he prefers Cali he should do something more fun like buy all the different Ridge Zins which are grade A in quality and half the price.



Geyserville vertical FTW

This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:41 pm to
You also might have time to get Palmaz shipped you
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:30 am to
quote:

This guy can load up on just about any premium wine and people are suggesting to go with the $75 version of Welch's grape juice. If he prefers Cali he should do something more fun like buy all the different Ridge Zins which are grade A in quality and half the price.


Completely disagree but that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. Zin is great as a blending grape. Cave Blend from Del Dotto is one of my favorites, but as a daily drinker no thanks to Zin. I’ll take my smooth dry delicious “fruit bombs” from the best grape on the planet and you can have the green arrows in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:31 am
Posted by LSUBogeyMan
Member since Oct 2021
1181 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:19 am to
Utopia Pinot Noir from Willamette should be a $75-$100 bottle.

ETA: I see you can grab one for $50 now. That’s a great wine IMO. I used to order it by the case, but it had gotten a little pricey.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:53 am to
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Completely disagree but that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. Zin is great as a blending grape.


I hear ya. As suggested above, give the Ridge Geyserville vertical suggestion a try. Have a feeling it might change your mind.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11981 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:54 am to
Just teasing you, man. It's a wine thread we need snobby pallets to take jabs at California wines

Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:06 pm to
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from the best grape on the planet


Quite a few old world grapes can make a serious argument against this. Nebbiolo, Pinot Noir, Sangiovese and Chardonnay all immediately come to mind. There's a reason Barolo is called the king of wines and the wine of kings.

Cabernet Sauvignon is a fantastic grape but IMO is best in blends (Bordeaux and Super Tuscans).
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 4:04 pm
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