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re: Choose my Christmas wines
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:36 am to LouisianaLady
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:36 am to LouisianaLady
“Austin Hope”
Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.
Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:38 am to ItNeverRains
The Calling Pinot, Scouts Honor by Venge, Mount Veeder 2018 Cab, WillaKenzie Pinot williamett valley 2018, Ziata 2017 Cab....5 keepers ....
Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:14 am to ItNeverRains
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Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.
I like Austin Hope but a lot of traditionalists don't.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:23 pm to WacoTiger
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4. Red Schooner Voyage 9 Malbec (made by the Wagner family that makes Caymus) - about $55 (can be bought for less if you look around)
My favorite wine. I'll drink it over literally anything else one could offer.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:01 pm to Pettifogger
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I like Austin Hope but a lot of traditionalists don't.
Why?
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Why?
Same reason they don't like Wagner wines or many of the big, bold, overripe, etc. wines coming out of CA that lack good structure or complexity. The typical complaint is that many wine producers cover up winemaking flaws with that "crowd pleaser" bold cali red style (fruitbombs), although I don't think AH is in that category. I think it's well made and a "good" wine for what is, but it's true that it's modern style. I'm a fan of more traditional cabs in a restrained style, but I like AH within the category just fine.
This board loves Wagner and similar wines, and is pretty reflective of the wine drinking public I think. And the offerings of Cali wineries reflect that, it's now the predominate style.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:57 pm to Pettifogger
Ah. Got you. Thank you for the explanation.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:58 pm to ItNeverRains
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Caymus, Prisoner, Artemis, Papillon, Belle Glos Clark & Telephone

Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:00 pm to wutangfinancial
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wutangfinancial
Come on now
You have to keep some juice boxes on hand for the kids
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:02 pm to ItNeverRains
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“Austin Hope”
Anyone over 20 who doesn’t like Austin Hope scares the shite out of me. Easiest drinking cab with complexity and structure on earth.
OP needs to buy 50 bottles of Matchbook to make it a real vacation IMO
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:06 pm to Pettifogger
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You have to keep some juice boxes on hand for the kids
I knew somebody would like that
This guy can load up on just about any premium wine and people are suggesting to go with the $75 version of Welch's grape juice.
If he prefers Cali he should do something more fun like buy all the different Ridge Zins which are grade A in quality and half the price.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:34 pm to wutangfinancial
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people are suggesting to go with the $75 version of Welch's grape juice.
I do love Napa Cabs, but probably 50% of my weekly bottles are old world. I love Spanish wine and am also a sucker for chateauneuf du pape.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:36 pm to wutangfinancial
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If he prefers Cali he should do something more fun like buy all the different Ridge Zins which are grade A in quality and half the price.
Geyserville vertical FTW
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:41 pm to GEAUXT
You also might have time to get Palmaz shipped you
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:30 am to wutangfinancial
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This guy can load up on just about any premium wine and people are suggesting to go with the $75 version of Welch's grape juice. If he prefers Cali he should do something more fun like buy all the different Ridge Zins which are grade A in quality and half the price.
Completely disagree but that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. Zin is great as a blending grape. Cave Blend from Del Dotto is one of my favorites, but as a daily drinker no thanks to Zin. I’ll take my smooth dry delicious “fruit bombs” from the best grape on the planet and you can have the green arrows in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:31 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:19 am to GEAUXT
Utopia Pinot Noir from Willamette should be a $75-$100 bottle.
ETA: I see you can grab one for $50 now. That’s a great wine IMO. I used to order it by the case, but it had gotten a little pricey.
ETA: I see you can grab one for $50 now. That’s a great wine IMO. I used to order it by the case, but it had gotten a little pricey.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:22 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:53 am to ItNeverRains
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Completely disagree but that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. Zin is great as a blending grape.
I hear ya. As suggested above, give the Ridge Geyserville vertical suggestion a try. Have a feeling it might change your mind.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:54 am to ItNeverRains
Just teasing you, man. It's a wine thread we need snobby pallets to take jabs at California wines
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:06 pm to ItNeverRains
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from the best grape on the planet
Quite a few old world grapes can make a serious argument against this. Nebbiolo, Pinot Noir, Sangiovese and Chardonnay all immediately come to mind. There's a reason Barolo is called the king of wines and the wine of kings.
Cabernet Sauvignon is a fantastic grape but IMO is best in blends (Bordeaux and Super Tuscans).
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:04 pm to ItNeverRains
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This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 4:04 pm
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