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re: Chicken and Gumbo Question
Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:55 pm to HurricaneDunc
Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:55 pm to HurricaneDunc
I hate eating around the cooked skin and bones in a gumbo, but I love the taste the skin and bones put in the gumbo. So, I just debone and skin the chicken and cut the meat into bite sized pieces. Then, I take my kitchen shears and break the ribs, keel, and back down into pieces about the size of the thigh bone or the bone in the drumstick. I cut up all that skin and fat into smaller pieces as well. Then I roll out the cheesecloth and make some baseball to softball sized bundles with the bones, cartilage, skins, giblets, etc. and tie them off with butcher's twine.
When I make my gumbo, the raw chicken bundles go into the stock when I start heating it. Then, I just make the gumbo as I normally would. When it's done, I fish the bundles out, let them drain, then toss them into the trash.
I end up with skinless, boneless, bite sized chicken pieces in my gumbo, but I don't have little pieces of rib bones everywhere and I don't lose what the skin and bones bring to the gumbo.
Cheesecloth and butcher twine are cheap as hell, but it's something a lot of people never think to use. In any liquidy type soup, gravy, etc., you just put whatever you don't want in the bowl (shrimp shells, woody herbs, etc.) inside cheesecloth and you can extract the flavor and easily remove it from the finished dish.
When I make my gumbo, the raw chicken bundles go into the stock when I start heating it. Then, I just make the gumbo as I normally would. When it's done, I fish the bundles out, let them drain, then toss them into the trash.
I end up with skinless, boneless, bite sized chicken pieces in my gumbo, but I don't have little pieces of rib bones everywhere and I don't lose what the skin and bones bring to the gumbo.
Cheesecloth and butcher twine are cheap as hell, but it's something a lot of people never think to use. In any liquidy type soup, gravy, etc., you just put whatever you don't want in the bowl (shrimp shells, woody herbs, etc.) inside cheesecloth and you can extract the flavor and easily remove it from the finished dish.
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:15 pm to HurricaneDunc
Ask the butcher to cut up a hen for you. Ask him to give you the Angola cut or jailhouse cut, they are the same thing but dofferent people use different terms.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 10:43 am to CajunPhil
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Even if you make the stock immediately to freeze for a future gumbo, the stock itself takes a lot of space.
I reduce stocks substantially when making them for the freezer. When I use them for gumbo or some other dish, I add water to them until I get the level of flavor I want. Takes up a lot less space that way.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 1:16 pm to CajunPhil
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If you make a good gumbo nobody cares about the chicken meat.
Screw that. I want chicken in every bite.
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Make roux, let cool slightly, stir in water, boil roux in water until it turns slightly sweet (non bitter), about an hour , add trinity, then add the stock and andouille. Cook 2-3 hours, then add chicken pieces with all skin and bones still on, cook 45 minutes.
I have literally never seen a gumbo made this way. I won't knock it without tasting, but I don't want chicken skin or bones in my finished product.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 7:41 pm to BayouBlitz
My grandmother used to make gumbo with whole chicken thighs and it was great. A chicken thigh with bone and skin in every bowl. I've never made like that but I might try one day.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:32 pm to HurricaneDunc
I use thighs or Leg Quarters. Bake them for 40-45 minutes and then debone them. Bake the bones a little longer and make a stick with that. Gives the gumbo nice flavor.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:12 am to HurricaneDunc
The bone and the skins lend tremendous flavor. They are full of tasty fats and marrow which is the beauty of gumbo. The trick is cooking the meat on low and slow heat so the chicken doesn't fall apart and you have bare bones in the pot.
It's good to experiment with different chickens. Try a young rooster. Delicious.
If you want to remove the chicken and debone before serving, that's fine.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:48 am to CajunPhil
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If you make a good gumbo nobody cares about the chicken meat.
disagree. Hen makes a better gumbo because it hold up better than a younger bird.
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