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re: Charcoal or Gas grill

Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:09 pm to
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I would love to know how the smoke from the oils and sugars dripping down effect the flavor in 7-10 minutes, yet the smoke from the charcoal magically does not.
Smoke from charcoal?

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If you cant taste the difference between something thats been cooked over charcoal vs something that's been cooked over gas, then I truly feel sorry for you.
You can't either. There is no taste for that. You may smell something though.

More complete quotes from articles on either side,

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Charcoal purists will try to tell you that their preferred fuel leads to better flavor. This is, well, nonsense.

Your food doesn't know what's creating the heat below it, and once charcoal is hot, there aren't any aromatic compounds left in the coals. According to the food science bible Modernist Cuisine, "Carbon is carbon; as it burns, it imparts no flavor of its own to the food being grilled."

The characteristic flavor of grilled food comes from the drippings, not the fuel. When those drippings hit the heat source below, the oils, sugars, and proteins burst into smoke and flame. That heat creates new complex molecules that rise in the smoke and warm air to coat the food you're grilling.


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What charcoal brings to the party is a healthy heaping of aroma compounds, the other half of the power couple that is flavor. In fact, aroma might be the super starlet in that relationship, because our tongues are actually pretty limited. “There are only five taste receptors that are well-agreed-upon to exist within your taste buds,” Sacks says. He’s referring to sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and the new kid: umami.

Anything else you perceive while eating—that smoky deliciousness, for example—is courtesy of aroma.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:11 pm to
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Can you explain that? Would that be more of an opinion, than a fact?


For thin meats cooked under 15 minutes? I can't come up with a reason. Of course it's my opinion, and that's what i was giving to the OP.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:14 pm to
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You will never need more heat than what a gas grill supplies.



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???



Can you explain that? Would that be more of an opinion, than a fact? 







I actually agree with that.

The only thing i grill at screaming heat is a steak and i do those between 550 and 600 degrees. My gasser reaches that easily.

Now if we're talking about outdoor pizza ovens (gas or charcoal) that's a different matter.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:17 pm to
Many types of cancer have been linked to charcoal so be careful and read up on it before you decide. I still use charcoal just not as much after reading what I read.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:18 pm to
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The only thing i grill at screaming heat is a steak and i do those between 550 and 600 degrees. My gasser reaches that easily.

I have to turn mine down.
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:24 pm to
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You will never need more heat than what a gas grill supplies


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Of course it's my opinion, and that's what i was giving to the OP.



No you weren't, you were giving it to NATidefan.

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I have to turn mine down.


What gas grill do you have?
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted by bagboy333
Youngsville, LA
Member since May 2018
402 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:26 pm to
My GOD! If you don't know what you are talking about then don't comment. It's that easy.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:27 pm to
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AlxTgr


Posted by DCLakeviewLife
Lakeview
Member since Mar 2019
8 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:35 pm to
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AlxTgr


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I can't stop laughing at your dumb arse


Going by the number of downvotes each of your comments received, I think you lost this battle.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:38 pm to
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What gas grill do you have?

Weber.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:39 pm to
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My GOD! If you don't know what you are talking about then don't comment. It's that easy.
That is good advice. I know this topic well. Can you point out what you have issues with?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:39 pm to
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Nguyener

Stop educating the ignorant and stomping group think? Nope.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:40 pm to
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Going by the number of downvotes each of your comments received, I think you lost this battle.
And yet none of you point out anything wrong.
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:41 pm to
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Weber.


Me too, which model?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:42 pm to
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That is good advice. I know this topic well. Can you point out what you have issues with?


God, you must be annoying as hell in real life.

Aroma (which your quote mentioned as being part of fricking flavor), taste, whatever you want to call it... I dont really care.

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What charcoal brings to the party is a healthy heaping of aroma compounds, the other half of the power couple that is flavor. In fact, aroma might be the super starlet in that relationship, because our tongues are actually pretty limited. 


Things cooked over charcoal provide a different experience when eating it vs things cooked over gas. It's not the fricking same.


You said...

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It does what charcoal can do, easier with no down side.


Obviously it doesnt according to your precious quote. It doesnt provide the same aroma (which is part of flavor)

Congrats dumbass, you just proved yourself wrong.
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
15719 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 5:24 pm to
I had a party and cooked about 10 slabs of ribs..I have an 18 inch Weber kettle..A 4 burner Natural gas grill and an electric smoker. I used all three to cook and everyone hands down preferred the charcoal. All slabs were seasoned the same and cooked to the correct temp.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:37 pm to
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I had a party and cooked about 10 slabs of ribs..I have an 18 inch Weber kettle..A 4 burner Natural gas grill and an electric smoker. I used all three to cook and everyone hands down preferred the charcoal. All slabs were seasoned the same and cooked to the correct temp.


Charcoal's always better for something like that. In fact, i pulled two slabs off an hour ago. Smoked over apple, hickory and lump charcoal and then finished on the gasser for about 25 minutes.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42334 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:44 pm to
I have both an use charcoal 95% of the time.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60682 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:59 pm to
A charcoal cooked hamburger is on my wish list if I ever choose one food to eat exclusively
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4121 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:18 pm to
Charcoal and pellet grill are all I use. Weber gas grill in the basement
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