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Can't seem to ever cook Ruby Red shrimp right

Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:14 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:14 am
What's the deal with these? Last night used them for BBQ shrimp and they were underdone. Still slightly mushy. I always seem to under cook them or over cook them, have no issues with normal shrimp and made some regular BBQ shrimp too that turned out perfect.

Any tips for cooking these properly? They just seem so delicate with very little time to be cooked perfectly?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:15 am to
Are you boiling them, or steaming them?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:17 am to
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Ruby Red shrimp


As I understand it, these are pretty much all essentially cooked and then flash frozen on the boats. All you're supposed to be doing in "cooking" them is thawing them. Should not take more than a minute or two in boiling salted water.

I'm not sure I'd try to use them in a BBQ shrimp recipe.

What are the downvotes about here?
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:36 am to
Royal Reds have a different texture and flavor. They're sort of close to a lobster type texture. They cook VERY quickly. If they were mushy, they may have been overcooked rather than undercooked. They're a bit tricky.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:06 pm to
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As I understand it, these are pretty much all essentially cooked and then flash frozen on the boats.


This is pretty much all shrimp unless you find some shop that gets them from a local guy that goes out every single night.

ETA: At least the flash frozen part.


This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:25 pm to
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This is pretty much all shrimp unless you find some shop that gets them from a local guy that goes out every single night.

ETA: At least the flash frozen part.



I live in S Louisiana, so yeah that's not really the norm on the shrimp we get.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:43 pm to
You're sadly mistaken, except maybe during inshore season.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

As I understand it, these are pretty much all essentially cooked and then flash frozen on the boats. All you're supposed to be doing in "cooking" them is thawing them. Should not take more than a minute or two in boiling salted water.


How sure are you of that? I fish and eat seafood all the time, I've shrimped myself before recreationally and these shrimp looked fresh to me. Translucent, soft, etc.

Whenever I've had them overcooked, the shell sticks to them very very badly. Almost impossible to eat badly. We baked these for like 20-30 minutes. Recipe called for normal shrimp to be cooked for 30-40 minutes depending on size.

*Royal Reds not ruby, my bad on that. My understanding is that shrimpers fish for 3-4 nights at a time and put all shrimp into coolers with ice. That's how all the shrimp I've ever bought on the coast are.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
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How sure are you of that? I fish and eat seafood all the time, I've shrimped myself before recreationally and these shrimp looked fresh to me. Translucent, soft, etc.


I've thought the Royal Reds were typically caught so far offshore that they aren't getting them back to the docks fast enough to keep them fresh. I've never seen seen fresh ones anywhere. Flash freezing shrimp will typically keep them in pretty much as good a state as "fresh." I also thought they were sort of par-boiled before flash freezing, unlike the typical brown or white shrimp.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
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We baked these for like 20-30 minutes. Recipe called for normal shrimp to be cooked for 30-40 minutes depending on size.


I think you cooked them too long. Like I said, they cook very quickly and the texture is quite different from "normal shrimp".

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:32 pm to
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think you cooked them too long. Like I said, they cook very quickly and the texture is quite different from "normal shrimp".


Could be but I don't think so. In the past when I've over boiled them, as I said the shell sticks to the meat horribly. Very similar to lobster how the meat sticks to the shell.

Some of these were perfect, but about half were like 3/4 cooked normal shrimp. White but still really soft and somewhat goey. I nuked them for a couple seconds and just ate them.

It just seems like they are very very finicky to cook?

These were from Sexton's in Destin, the next thing I see in there that's not fresh as can be will be the first thing.
Posted by RetiredTiger
Lafayette,LA
Member since Mar 2014
731 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
You probably know this but Royal Reds we get on the AL/FL gulf coast are not the same as the ones sold in grocery stores. Some places do call them Ruby Reds as I have seen at Publix and Albertsons. Those usually come from Argentina and are generally poor quality.
Royal reds require very little prep. Bring some water to a boil,cut the fire and put the Reds in that water. Stir around over no heat and in 2 1/2 minutes you can have the butter melted and the shrimp out. I've been where you are and know this method guarantees a positive out come.
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 7:46 pm to
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Royal reds require very little prep. Bring some water to a boil,cut the fire and put the Reds in that water. Stir around over no heat and in 2 1/2 minutes you can have the butter melted and the shrimp out. I've been where you are and know this method guarantees a positive out come.



This. Pretty much cook in hot water, not even boiling.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1537 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:17 am to
If you are boiling them I have pretty much got them to where they cook and peel perfectly everytime. Boil water with some white vinegar in it (Advice from Joe Patti's in Pensacola when I was having trouble as well). Drop shrimp in for exactly two minutes and remove them. At that point, they are ready to serve. I have done them numerous times this way and they have been perfect every time. Before this, I tried many different things that sometimes worked to varying degrees.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
18036 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:23 am to
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You're sadly mistaken, except maybe during inshore season.



I agree. There's way more times you are buying IQF's from the merchants than fresh caught shrimp. All you have to do is look at the shrimp in the boxes to see their long feelers/whiskers are all broken off at or near the head.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:59 am to
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a minute or two in boiling salted water.


This
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37462 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:13 am to
quote:

I live in S Louisiana, so yeah that's not really the norm on the shrimp we get.


Eh depends on who is providing it. There are a ton of S Louisiana shrimpers that IQF their shrimp. As I said, unless you are buying your shrimp from a local provider who gets his shrimp from someone who comes to port daily, your shrimp are going to be frozen at some point. It just isn't feasible for shrimpers to do it daily anymore. They need to be able to stay out days at a time.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37462 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:16 am to
quote:

You probably know this but Royal Reds we get on the AL/FL gulf coast are not the same as the ones sold in grocery stores. Some places do call them Ruby Reds as I have seen at Publix and Albertsons. Those usually come from Argentina and are generally poor quality.


Bingo. Just a fun fact for those that aren't aware, to look out for. If someone wants to sell you Ruby Reds, give them the finger
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70929 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:17 am to
Yeah, gramma taught me how to tell if the shrimp was ever frozen when I was young walking with her at the fisherman's market.
Also a lot of shrimp we did get was caught in last 24 hours.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:21 am to
You can tell by the eyes and the feelers.
We have a ton of recreational 1-3 shrimpers here. Hell I've bought them and oysters off the boat many times.

I'll say you probably never get fresh shrimp in restaurants though.
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