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By Georges: The story of how 2 Black New Orleanians shaped the culinary world

Posted on 2/23/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Stadium Rat
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 3:24 pm


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George Curry and George Goode are some of the everyday history makers that are often forgotten.

In the early 1900s, the two Georges worked at The St. Charles Hotel, an architectural landmark which, as one of the grand hotels of its era, drew people to New Orleans. They were head waiters — positions more like a maitre d’ today — who oversaw dining room staffs and ran the front of the house. Both men had skills, experience and reputations that put them in demand across the country.

And both were also Black men in high-skilled positions in white-dominated spaces during Jim Crow. But despite the obvious challenges that would present, they commanded respect in the workplace and worked in spaces many Black people weren't able to enter as customers.
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Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:23 am to
Two waiters shaped the New Orleans culinary world?



Waiters?


Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:22 am to
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They were head waiters — positions more like a maitre d’ today


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high-skilled positions


Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:25 am to
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positions more like a maitre d’ today — who oversaw dining room staffs and ran the front of the house. Both men had skills, experience and reputations that put them in demand across the country.



Looks like a lot more than just waiters.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:35 am to
I see you’ve never worked in the service industry especially in New Orleans

I started at the royal orleans and without question it was the doorman and the rib room maitre ‘d who ran the lobby and the front of the house. And both were black dudes who’d been there their whole careers

not coincidentally they were the highest paid non management employees in the hotel
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:41 am to
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I see you’ve never worked in the service industry especially in New Orleans


Yes, I have. Despite your feelings on the issue, these positions are not highly skilled. They require a set of skills, but are in no way the same as something like a software engineer.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:58 am to
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They require a set of skills, but are in no way the same as something like a software engineer.
the frick? LOL
why would a restaurant employee need to be able to code software?

Skills are skills
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:35 am to
There is no reason to keep doubling down on being an a-hole.

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:56 am to
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They require a set of skills, but are in no way the same as something like a software engineer.


Go ask a software engineer to run a restaurant and get back to us
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34319 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:08 am to
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the frick? LOL
why would a restaurant employee need to be able to code software?


Man, you are stupid.


Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34319 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:12 am to
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Go ask a software engineer to run a restaurant and get back to us


Why would I do that?

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:21 am to
You brought the software engineer into the thread for some reason. I'm assuming because of the intelligence required to be one and the intelligence required to run the restaurant, which you think is nothing.

My question was for obvious reasons. The software guy wouldn't know what to do at all. He could learn the basics and through experience, obtain the skills needed to be successful. Just like these guys did.
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:32 am to
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the frick? LOL why would a restaurant employee need to be able to code software? Man, you are stupid.


Oh the irony.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34319 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:37 pm to
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I'm assuming because of the intelligence required to be one and the intelligence required to run the restaurant, which you think is nothing.


Well, that's what you get for assuming instead of reading. My original comment was laughing at the article calling being a waiter a "high-skilled" job.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:50 pm to
I'm going by the article I read. Their jobs were a present day maitre d’. If you have a reputation as being one of the best of these in a city like New Orleans, you're highly skilled.

Stop digging the hole imo
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29805 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:03 pm to
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software engineer


Comparing this to:

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In the early 1900s


Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34319 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:12 pm to
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you're highly skilled.

You can be very good at your job; that doesn't make it a high-skilled job.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10246 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:18 pm to
What's sad is everybody knows why you object to these 2 men being called "highly-skilled" and why you doubt their influence on the NOLA food scene.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34319 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:07 pm to
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why you doubt their influence on the NOLA food scene

Never did.

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everybody knows why


Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:04 pm to
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that doesn't make it a high-skilled job.


Pressing buttons on a keyboard is though.
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