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re: Are you good with going in a restaurant right before it’s scheduled to close?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:55 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:55 am to LNCHBOX
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Don't agree with this either. My work hours at my company don't perfectly align with other people's at other companies. I actually had a PM try to tell me he didn't see something because an email was sent outside his work hours as if he wasn't telling me this on a smart phone. That guy is the actual a-hole
If you know his typical work hours and you're reaching out for something that isn't urgent, you're still the a-hole.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:00 am to Epic Cajun
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If you know his typical work hours and you're reaching out for something that isn't urgent, you're still the a-hole.
It's not my job to know his work hours

If you want to work a job where being out the second the place closes is important to you, the service industry isn't for you.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:06 am to themetalreb
I would say it depends on the situation. If it's a weekend night and the place is still sort of packed and bustling 10-15 minutes before posted closing time, it's one thing. I would always still be very deferential in such a situation, though.
If it's a Tuesday night and you want to walk into a basically empty place at such time hoping to be served a full all out sit-down meal, you are pretty much a dick.
I've worked in the business. I worked for a guy whose motto was "we do business, when there's business to be done," and who would turn nobody away and pitch an absolute fit if anyone ever pushed or suggested to a customer coming in at any point before the door was locked otherwise. I think he even went and unlocked the doors for people on a few occasions.
If it's a Tuesday night and you want to walk into a basically empty place at such time hoping to be served a full all out sit-down meal, you are pretty much a dick.
I've worked in the business. I worked for a guy whose motto was "we do business, when there's business to be done," and who would turn nobody away and pitch an absolute fit if anyone ever pushed or suggested to a customer coming in at any point before the door was locked otherwise. I think he even went and unlocked the doors for people on a few occasions.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:20 am to LNCHBOX
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If you want to work a job where being out the second the place closes is important to you,
Stop swapping spit with BabyTac and let us at WFH, and your email might get paid attention to after I leave. Otherwise, no.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:55 am to LemmyLives
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Stop swapping spit with BabyTac and let us at WFH, and your email might get paid attention to after I leave. Otherwise, no.
Did you want to try again in English?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:50 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's not my job to know his work hours
Well, that's a bit different than a restaurant with posted hours then, isn't it?
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It was an email sent at 4:12 in the afternoon btw and actually was kind of important.
If it's important, and you work in a professional field, that's completely different than a college kid working in the service industry for tips. Holding a service worker to the same working standards as a college educated professional is a bit of a reach

Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:52 pm to Epic Cajun
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Well, that's a bit different than a restaurant with posted hours then, isn't it?
That doesn't stop the kitchen from starting cleanup early

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If it's important, and you work in a professional field, that's completely different than a college kid working in the service industry for tips. Holding a service worker to the same working standards as a college educated professional is a bit of a reach
Oh so now working hours don't matter because it's inconvenient for your argument

Just about every job I've ever had, going back to being a life guard at the local swim club as a teen, has had the possibility of getting stuck working beyond my scheduled time. What is so special about the service industry that makes yall think they are immune to this?
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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Just about every job I've ever had, going back to being a life guard at the local swim club as a teen, has had the possibility of getting stuck working beyond my scheduled time. What is so special about the service industry that makes yall think they are immune to this?
No one said that service workers stroll out immediately at their closing time. It's understood that you may have some stragglers wrapping up a few minutes after closing time.
But, if you are a customer and go into a restaurant 5 minutes before closing and expect to be able to sit down for an hour long dinner, you are an a-hole

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Oh so now working hours don't matter because it's inconvenient for your argument
Flexibility around expected working hours for a salaried professional should definitely be different than those of a service worker. If this is a strange concept to you, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:13 pm to Epic Cajun
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But, if you are a customer and go into a restaurant 5 minutes before closing and expect to be able to sit down for an hour long dinner, you are an a-hole
Why? The business is open. Until a last seating time is posted on the door, this is always going to be a possibility. You know that as a worker, it's up to you if that's a job you want. Like many have said, the "problem" is easily fixed by establishing a last seating time. It's more easily fixed by service workers just accepting that the occasional last second diner might show up and nothing needs to change, but that's apparently too easy
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Flexibility around expected working hours for a salaried professional should definitely be different than those of a service worker. If this is a strange concept to you, then I don't know what to tell you.
Again, why? At least the hourly worker is getting more money for their extra time worked.

Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:29 pm to LNCHBOX
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Why? The business is open.
Because you know that your act is causing someone else to have to work late. I didn't say that you couldn't do it, I even said that you could. But, you're being inconsiderate.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:33 pm to Epic Cajun
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Because you know that your act is causing someone else to have to work late. I didn't say that you couldn't do it, I even said that you could. But, you're being inconsiderate.
How many times do you plan on repeating the same thing while not ever addressing that the issue is with what the posted hours "mean?"
What other industry are you an a-hole for entering a business while the business is open? Why are the workers that start cleaning and shutting everything down prior to close not shouldering any of the fault for the tension surround last minute diners? The answer is there is no answer, because of the ambiguity of what the posted hours mean.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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What other industry are you an a-hole for entering a business while the business is open?
If you enter any other business and stay around after the hours that they are open, you are an a-hole. How is this so hard to comprehend?
What other type of business do you enter and then stay in the business after the posted open hours?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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Why are the workers that start cleaning and shutting everything down prior to close not shouldering any of the fault for the tension surround last minute diners?
Because cleaning a kitchen and dining space is not comparable to any of the shite you've thrown up in this thread.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:39 pm to themetalreb
Edit - wrong thread.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 3:59 pm to themetalreb
My local BK just posted on the sign out front:"OPEN TILL 1AM", yes, in all caps.
I know tonight's crew is expected to keep the window going till 1am tonight since the owner/manager is going to be there. After that who knows but I ain't gonna be their closing customer at 1 any night anyway.
I know tonight's crew is expected to keep the window going till 1am tonight since the owner/manager is going to be there. After that who knows but I ain't gonna be their closing customer at 1 any night anyway.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 4:37 pm to wesfau
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Because cleaning a kitchen and dining space is not comparable to any of the shite you've thrown up in this thread.
bullshite. I worked retail in college and routinely stayed 1 hour or later after store closing to clean up the fricking mess from the day of customers. We would try to do it early, but if someone came in before close and messed it up again that's just part of the job.
I'd love to know who downvotes this and why? Y'all really think the service industry has a monopoly on staying late?

This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 4:39 pm to Epic Cajun
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If you enter any other business and stay around after the hours that they are open, you are an a-hole. How is this so hard to comprehend?
I see you went right back to repeating yourself again and not addressing anything I've said

You still a server bruh?
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 4:39 pm to Epic Cajun
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What other type of business do you enter and then stay in the business after the posted open hours?
Restaurants should post seating hours and not leave anything up to interpretation. “Seating available until 9:00 pm” or something like that. This would eliminate any confusion.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 7:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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You still a server bruh?
I’ve never worked in the retail or restaurant business.

Can you not address what I’ve asked? Is there a single other type of establishment where you enter before closing and expect to be able to stay around well after the time of their closing?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 7:47 pm to ChEgrad
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Restaurants should post seating hours and not leave anything up to interpretation. “Seating available until 9:00 pm” or something like that. This would eliminate any confusion.
I’ve already stated that you can do it, it just shows a lack of understanding of social norms and what should and should not be acceptable.
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