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re: Anybody else tiring of hazy IPAs?

Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:19 pm to
I've always preferred WC over NEIPA but do drink my fair share of NEIPAs. It seemed early in the NEIPA game they weren't as cloyingly sweet as NEIPAs have become today and I enjoyed those early versions more. Luckily a brewery near me has always had a WC as one of its flagship beers and has done other WC and Cold IPAs, which are similar to WC. And I brew my own, have a WC in a keg right now.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:28 pm to
I'm going to guess you only drink Coors/Miller and call that stuff "real beer"
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:58 pm to
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It seemed early in the NEIPA game they weren't as cloyingly sweet as NEIPAs have become today and I enjoyed those early versions more.


Yes! Just like how WCIPA had it's race to the highest IBU, NEIPA had it's race to the softest juice. If you had some of the earlier Heady Toppers, they had some more meat to them. They still kind of do compared to more modern NEIPAs. The biotransformation technique those early Vermont brewers like HF, Lawsons, and Alchemist pioneered warped into what we have today. Conan/London Ale yeast is amazing, but we've taken it too far, just like we took IBUs too far.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Anybody else tiring of hazy IPAs?


Honestly, no. I still like them a lot.

But I like WCIPAs too. And pilsners. And stouts. But for hops, there are a lot more options for fresh hazy IPAs than there are fresh WCIPAs. I don't want a Founders Centennial IPA from March, when there is 3 week old Ghost on the shelf.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Heady Toppers


I was at their tap room 3 or 4 years ago and was shocked at how subtle the Heady Topper was compared to new NEIPAs I've had
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:56 pm to
No not tired of them, but I've always drunk other styles too. I'd say I drink about 50% NEIPA. My BIL drinks 100% hazy. I don't know how he does it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:01 pm to
Racer 5 was such a great IPA
Stone Ruination was unbelievable
Palate wrecker by Green Flash was amazing

Sadly you don’t see either of them at all these days.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:02 pm to
I drink Miller and cheap tequila with fightin tigers, who masquerades as a craft beer guy. So what?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Racer 5 was such a great IPA


RIP

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Stone Ruination was unbelievable


Stone is almost RIP. Sapporo is runnign it into the ground.

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Palate wrecker by Green Flash was amazing


RIP
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30172 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:34 pm to
I really like beer history. I've read too many books on the subject. I've said this before on here, but if you want as close of a representation to an original IPA as you can get, drink an Orval. It's essentially an old recipe British IPA and mimics the aging one would have experienced on it's journey to the East India workers. The "high" IBUs would have kept most souring bacteria at bay, and the brett would have scavenged the oxygen in the barrels as they sloshed around the ballast areas of a ship going to India.

It's interesting to see the progression from something like Orval to Ghost, but that's the evolution.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:46 pm to
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Racer 5 was such a great IPA
Stone Ruination was unbelievable
Palate wrecker by Green Flash was amazing

Sadly you don’t see either of them at all these days.



Absolutely. I can't even find Oskar Blues down here in South Florida.

I've always preferred to drink local, when I can, but all of the local breweries are brewing the hazy beers, which I like, but there is too much mediocrity out there. One note beers with no complexity or nuance - regardless of whether the beer is NEIPA or WCIPA.



Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

quote:
Anybody else tiring of hazy IPAs?


Honestly, no. I still like them a lot.

But I like WCIPAs too. And pilsners. And stouts. But for hops, there are a lot more options for fresh hazy IPAs than there are fresh WCIPAs. I don't want a Founders Centennial IPA from March, when there is 3 week old Ghost on the shelf.



This. I'm not tired of them, but I would like more variety. I drink mostly hazy because that is what is fresh and available.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Jax-Tiger


At least you have Jai Alai.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78637 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Stone is almost RIP


Oh wow I didn’t know this.

Are they even still popular on the west coast?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30172 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:23 pm to
Nah. Places like them, Lagunitas, and Ballast Point sold to big brands, and the big brands do what they do best and destroyed quality. It's part of the reason I'm such a big Sierra Nevada fan. They have stayed consistent to their ethos.

Posted by BMoney
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:54 pm to
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big Sierra Nevada fan


They trick me into buying a 6-pack of Celebration every damn year, when I should know that it's a malty mess.

And they need to bring back Tumbler.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
55644 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:57 pm to
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I'm such a big Sierra Nevada fan


I really like the Pale Ale and Torpedo, but I rarely see it less than 6 months old.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30172 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:54 pm to
give me all the crystal malt.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:24 pm to
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Ballast Point


Grapefruit Sculpin used to be so damn good. I had it in its infancy while I was doing some work in San Diego. I remember being able to find it briefly in Nola Metro but it got scarce and I stopped looking.
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