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Alligator Sauce Picante Help

Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
542 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:52 am
I have acquired a whole wild caught 7' alligator worth of meat from a friend. I have tail meat, tenderloin, leg meat, and the jowl meat.

Back in college years back, we attempted to fry some alligator that we had soaked in buttermilk overnight and it came out so chewy, inedible almost. I want to cook an alligator sauce picante soon, but I am scared of mucking it up with tough gator.

Obviously a lot of people cook it with great results, and I don't know a better place to ask about it than here. Which meat should I use for the sauce picante? I hear the jowl meat is the best/most tender so I was hoping to save that to fry, but would the leg and tail meat both be fine for the sauce picante? I figure if I will be cooking it down for a long time, I will be able to get it tender. Is there anything I need to do to the meat before cooking besides removing the fat and tendons?

Any advice is appreciated, especially from someone with experience cooking alligator sauce picante. Thanks.
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:13 am to
Here is a recipe from Justin Wilson. I think there are also recipes in the recipe book for Sauce Piquant.

Alligator Sauce Piquant

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Serving Size : 20 Preparation Time :0:00
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Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
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5 pounds Alligator meat -- trim/cube
1 cup Olive oil
3 cups Flour -- All-purpose
5 cups Onion -- chopped
2 cups Green onion -- chopped
1 cup Bell pepper -- chopped
1/2 cup Celery -- chopped
2 cups Tomatoes -- fresh/chopped
8 cups Water -- cold
2 tablespoons Garlic -- finely chopped
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
1 lemon -- Juice of
Salt to taste
Tabasco sauce to taste
2 cups White wine -- dry
6 cups Tomato sauce

Make a dark roux with olive oil and flour. When roux is dark brown, add onion, green onion, bell pepper, and celery; cover and cook until onions are clear, stirring occasionally. Add tomatoes and continue cooking for 10 min; stir often. Add water and stir to make a thick liquid. Add garlic, Worcestershire, lemon juice, salt, hot sauce, wine, and tomato sauce, making sure to mix well. Add alligator, and enough water to cover the ingredients by 2 inches; stir to mix. Bring to a boil, stirring frequently. After it comes to a boil, turn heat to low and cover, checking from time to time, and stir to prevent sauce from sticking. Continue cooking for 3 to 4 hrs.until meat is tender.

Recipe: Justin Wilson’s “Homegrown Louisiana Cookbook” ISBN 0-02-630125-3
Posted to EAT-L Digest 13 October 96
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:14 am
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2288 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:16 am to
We always used the tail meat.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9706 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:17 am to
Get a Jaccard and tenderize the meat...especially if you're going to use the leg and tail meat. That's what I always do. Obviously cut it into bite-size pieces and tenderize the hell out of each piece then soak them in milk and a little hot sauce for 24 hours.

A friend gave me a 5lb pack of jowl meat a while back and I made a sauce piquant with it and that's the process I used. The pieces were tender AF.

LINK
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:19 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50090 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:26 am to
Use any cut you wish...just cook it down on low heat for a long time. Two + hours...you’ll be fine.

Tip...add chopped green olives to the sauce. And a few bay leaves...and red wine.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28611 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:53 am to
Here's John Folse making Alligator Sauce Piquante and he specifically mentions using the tail meat.

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Posted by PBeard
DC
Member since Oct 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:40 am to
TreeDawg's Sauce Piquante

10 lbs of meat cut stew size.
(Alligator, Venison or Turtle)
2 lbs Smoked Hot Sausage or Andoulle diced.
9 Yellow Onions chopped.
4 Bell Peppers chopped.
1 Bunch Celery chopped.
9 Cloves Garlic chopped.
2 Bunches Green Onion chopped.
1 box Fresh Mushrooms sliced.
2 lbs. Real Salted Butter.
4 Cans Rotel.
Four 6 oz. Cans Tomato Paste.
Two 6 oz. Cans Tomato Sauce.
4 Cups Burgundy.
1/2 Cup Lea & Perrins.
2 tsp. Sugar.
1 Cup Oil.
1 Cup Flour.
1 Gallon Water.
5 Gallon Black Iron Pot.
1 Black Iron Skillet.

1) Brown seasoned meat, in melted Butter, in Pot.

2) Brown Sausage in Skillet at same time.

3) Remove Meat and Saute Onions, Bell Pepper, Celery, Garlic & 3/4 of the Green Onions. Save 1/4 of Green Onion for Garnish.

4) Remove Sausage when browned. Add Oil to Pork Fat from Sausage. Add Flour and brown to make a dark Roux. Add 1/4 Cup of Lea & Perrins when you turn off heat and blend.

5) Add Tomato Sauce, Paste, Rotel and Sugar to Sauted Veggies. Cook until blended well then add Roux. Cook untill blended well again.

6) Add Burgundy, 1/4 Cup of Lea & Perrins and 1/2 Gallon of Water. Bring back to boil.

7) Add Meat and Sausage back to Pot. Add Water if needed, enough to cover meat good. Bring Back to boil, reduce heat and start spooning off excess grease. Stir often and deep to keep from sticking.

8) Season generously and cook slow for 3 hours. Continue to spoon off grease and stir. Add Water and Seasoning as needed.

9) Add Mushrooms and cook 1 more hour. Garnish with Green Onions, serve over Rice and with French Bread.

The recipe is big but still great when reduced. Just don't hurry it.
This is the real deal!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
542 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:49 am to
Thanks for all the replys. Y’all have given me some confidence in the gator. To be clear, I have cooked sauce picantes before, I just haven’t done it with Alligator yet and was just worried about the meat being tough, but I am planning on cooking it down for a long time.

Also, anyone fancy pasta over rice for sauce picantes?
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 9:07 am
Posted by SeafoodPlatter
Member since Jul 2012
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

TypoKnig


How is this sauce piquante? There's no piquante in that there red gravy.
Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
542 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:45 am to
Can anyone that has made the TreeDawg recipe comment. The recipe calls for 2Lbs of butter in addition to the roux in the dish. This seems like a lot but I am game for it if it works out. Just wanted to see if yall have used the 2Lbs of butter before I threw it in. I guess its not a whole ton once made into a large sauce picante.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Can anyone that has made the TreeDawg recipe comment. The recipe calls for 2Lbs of butter in addition to the roux in the dish.


Use all the Butter

The butter, roux and burgundy combo make this right!!
Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
542 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:30 am to
That's all I needed to hear... and right from the source! Thanks man.
Posted by Creedence
The Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
63 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:57 pm to
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