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Posted on 5/6/11 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 12:23 pm to
There is no "set stage" to close the river. It is based on certain variables such as navigation and levee integrity. If things go accordingly and river traffic doesn't cause serious disruption i.e large wakes, then I doubt they close the river. The last thing they want to do is stop commerce on the river. The only reason they stopped the river up in Caruthersville was mostly political. The wakes caused by traffic had the land owners in an uproar.
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 12:29 pm to
I am assuming now that Morganza was opened in '73 to relieve the pressure on the failing ORCS not due to a flood trigger. Now that flooding is causing the trigger to open the gates in Morganza this is new territory for the USCE.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

I am assuming now that Morganza was opened in '73 to relieve the pressure on the failing ORCS not due to a flood trigger.


Correct
Posted by NaBreauxleon
Member since Mar 2011
103 posts
Posted on 5/6/11 at 12:34 pm to
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Behind the seawall in Morgan City. The water is getting closer to the base of the seawall. The base of the water is around 6.5 to 7 ft.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:06 pm to


At the Plaquemine ferry. By far the highest I've seen it. The ferry is also having to shut down every day for maintenance due to the rising water
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:09 pm to
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The ferry is also having to shut down every day for maintenance due to the rising water


Posted by geauxlsu09
The 318
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:09 pm to
I'm going from Jena to Natchez later. I'll try and get some pics if I see anything significant.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:11 pm to
I was confused as well. There must be a problem with the ramp, ferries are usually pretty imune to water depth increases.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:13 pm to
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ferries are usually pretty imune to water depth increases.


The current gets out of control and the docks become a big problem. The water is getting to the point that the ferries will be shutting down soon. They're only immune up to a certain point
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:14 pm to
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I was confused as well. There must be a problem with the ramp, ferries are usually pretty imune to water depth increases.


I guess perhaps the incresed currents could be creating some maintenance issues. It was just funny the way he worded that.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:17 pm to
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ferries are usually pretty imune to water depth increases.


Its the speed of the current that they are afraid of
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:17 pm to


Thanks for posting that.

What I have said from page 2

Until water tops the potato leeve ( off to the left in the photo) and the forebay is flooded, opening the Morganza structure does nothing.
If my memory is correct the Potato leeve is @ 49'.
Once water tops the Potato leeve it has about 3,000 acres to flood (all the land to the left).
Once that happens all the land to the left will be flooded to a depth of about 10'-12'.

When and if the gates are opened water will flow to the right thru the Morganza spillway on to the Atchfalaya spillway.

Now if you have never felt an earthquake in your life. Be near here when they open these gates.


And if you have never picked crawfish before, be here once the water receeds.


Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:18 pm to
I was just talking about the ferry itself. The dock is another matter.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:20 pm to
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Do you know if they will do it at the icw or atchafalaya intersection?


I would assume at the ICW...but depending on how deep it is right there, sinking a barge may not do any good if the water is 10' deep and the barge is only 18' deep, all the water has to do is come up 8' and the barge is useless.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:20 pm to
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I was just talking about the ferry itself. The dock is another matter.
Well the ferry can't just sit in the middle of the river until the currents aren't so strong
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:25 pm to
Yeah I meant the docks go under maintenance not the ferry. Figured the OT geniuses could figure it out anyway.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:27 pm to
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And if you have never picked crawfish before, be here once the water receeds.


^^^THIS^^^



Posted by nacho24
El Palo Rojo
Member since Jan 2010
6039 posts
Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Yeah I meant the docks go under maintenance not the ferry


i think it is the ferry brah but it doesn't have anything to do with the high water. at least that's what i think i heard... they are moving the ferry from up near angola to plaquemine this weekend i beleive as they said the ferry there has been having mechanical issues.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:29 pm to
Sorry, had to chime in. On another note, did anyone post this yet from the OB thread?(Re: Morganza)
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AP83
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Just got a message from a WLF [biologist] saying it will start opening immediately. People that have moveable camps in that floodway need to go asap. Most people thought they would have another week to prepare and at this poing its not looking like it.

This is the text he received from his superior, take it for what its worth:

"All,
Just received word that the Morganza floodway will be opened immediately. All PLBs are to be standing by and ready to respond if needed. Those of you with immobilization equipment – make sure your kits are supplied and ready to go."
Posted by coverboy
Morgan City
Member since Sep 2005
413 posts
Posted on 5/6/11 at 1:40 pm to
Sandbags at Berwick gas station. Don't know how or where they plan on putting them out around the outskirts of Morgan City. They've already stacked normal size sandbags behind the floodgate in downtown Morgan City on the river side about 4 feet high since the gates tend to leak. People are definitely getting nervous down here. Lots of debris coming down the river already. Gonna be an interesting couple of weeks.[/img]
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