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Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:40 am to
Any new developments over night?
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18561 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:43 am to
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Atchafalaya river in Morgan City @ 6.54 this morning. On my way to work I saw it has already made its way up to the flood gate on Front Street. People are talking about it getting anywhere from 12-14 feet by the time the crest gets here. We're putting a lot of faith in the 15' wall and the levees around here.



the seawall is 22 feet
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:48 am to
To: LSU Faculty, Staff and Students

From: Mike Martin, Chancellor

Re: Mississippi River and LSU EOC

Date: May 10, 2011

As you are aware, the Mississippi River is rising to record levels in some parts of the country and later this month may reach its highest level since 1927 here in Baton Rouge. I am writing to let you know that the LSU Emergency Operations Center (EOC) is closely monitoring the situation and is in consultation with city, parish and state officials to gather information and make plans should there be adverse effects to the campus as a result of water seepage, sand boils or other more critical developments. In addition, we are fortunate to have the expertise of our own LSU researchers to advise us on potential impacts of the river’s rising level.


At this time we are being advised that the river will rise to a level of 47.5 feet on May 23 and will likely maintain at its crest for seven to 10 days. We have been advised the opening of the Morganza Spillway would reduce the eventual crest by one to two feet.


All scheduled activities on the LSU campus are still planned, including all final exams and commencement exercises on Friday, May 20. We will keep you informed as we gather more information and make additional preparations.

Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
6057 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:49 am to
Mississippi River hits crest at 2 a.m.; flooding could last until end of May

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After weeks in which it steadily rose toward historic stages, the Mississippi River began cresting early this morning, National Weather Service officials say.

The river reached its highest observed point so far -- 47.85 feet at the Memphis gauge -- at 2 a.m. and then began dipping ever so slightly. But the crest isn't over, said meteorologist Bill Borghoff.

"It's going to meander around that level for the next 24 to 36 hours," he said. "We're going to pretty much hold onto the crest for a while."

The 47.85-foot level, which is nearly 14 feet above flood stage, is less than 1 foot below the record crest of 48.7 feet set on Feb. 10, 1937.

Officials expect flooding along the river to last until at least the end of the month.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:58 am to
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It would depend on the reason for the footing subsiding. If it is do to lowered bearing capacity at the individual footing, depending on how the weight of the additional water interacts with the surface and subsurface soils, it could either increase or decrease the bearing capacity of the footing. Those are deep foundations that should be at least 50-75 feet deep shafts. The lateral forces should not have as much affect on the footing as the downward force of the extra water.


Yeah after talking about it around the office more, it will hold up regardless of the shear force. The old timers seem to think all that old concrete mix can withstand anything compared to newer mix designs. Downward compression may be another story, but I've never heard of that effecting anything and it won't do any immediate damage.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:04 am to
Old concrete > new concrete.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18622 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:10 am to
Video of Natchez Under the Hill flooding and temporary levee construction.

LINK

And crest is still close to two weeks away, and an additional 10 feet of water to go.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36328 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:21 am to
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Downward compression may be another story, but I've never heard of that effecting anything and it won't do any immediate damage.



I have no idea about the design or current conditions of the footings. However, the only reason the footings would be lower than the designed goal would be lowered bearing or friction capacities. In other words, the downward movement has already occurred at the footing do to changes or incorrect assumptions of the soil. The bridge has joints to allow movement between the supports. I'm sure there is still more room for the footings to vary in elevations before the bridge would become unsafe.

Either way, I highly doubt that would cause a significant failure. If any thing it would probably just cause some valleys or ridges at the joints.
Posted by Beachtiger
Bomba Shack
Member since Apr 2007
4207 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:24 am to
Upriver view from Perry st. Wharf.



Was trying to get the Air Draft gauge for the upper MRB. Air draft is 155' clearence.

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:34 am to
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The lateral forces should not have as much affect on the footing as the downward force of the extra water.


Also, wouldn't the lateral force of the flow be shielded by the Old 190 just to the north? If I remember correctly -- and I could be wrong -- the old highway was built on levees, while the "new" 190 had a much longer elevated section.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36328 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Also, wouldn't the lateral force of the flow be shielded by the Old 190 just to the north? If I remember correctly -- and I could be wrong -- the old highway was built on levees, while the "new" 190 had a much longer elevated section.


I'm not sure about the hydrology of the area but I would think it helps some, even if it's just a little.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:39 am to
Pics from MS river in Natchez. shite's looking BAD.





Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53564 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:41 am to
I hate looking at these pictures with no before pictures. I don't know what I'm looking at.
Posted by missloutiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1133 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:41 am to
dont look then
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:42 am to
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I hate looking at these pictures with no before pictures. I don't know what I'm looking at.


sorry about that. In my pics, just imagine the water about 20 feet lower than you see there and then imagine it going up another 10 feet.

ETA: and sorry I couldn't edit the contrast here at work. I was fighting the sun all day trying to lighten the objects in the shadows.
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 10:44 am
Posted by ComicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2005
992 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:43 am to
Who's dumbass idea was it to build something OUTSIDE of the levee on one of the biggest rivers on the planet? They should be sterilized so their stupidity can't spread. Forget that, they're too stupid to be sharing oxygen with us.
Posted by missloutiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1133 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:45 am to
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Who's dumbass idea was it to build something OUTSIDE of the levee on one of the biggest rivers on the planet? They should be sterilized so their stupidity can't spread. Forget that, they're too stupid to be sharing oxygen with us.

A bunch of guys that went to med school.
Posted by coverboy
Morgan City
Member since Sep 2005
413 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:47 am to
Question concerning the Bayou Bouef Locks. The level on the west side (the Atchafalaya Side) of the locks is at 6.2 and the east side is 3.1, a difference of 3.1 feet. Is this the standard height differential, or is there one or more other factors to consider?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:48 am to
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I hate looking at these pictures with no before pictures. I don't know what I'm looking at.


Let me sum it up. The water is damned high and is probably going to flood those brand new buildings there. The buildings are worth lots of money, so they are putting big boxes of sand to make walls around them. It is a last ditch effort.

Let me summarize the summary: It is very bad in Vidalia.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89130 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:52 am to
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It is very bad in Vidalia


I drove through there yesterday and saw the frenzied construction first hand. Pretty desperate, but they have to try something. The current of the river looked incredible from the bridge.
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