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re: D Thomas or Eric Decker

Posted on 7/15/12 at 2:39 am to
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 2:39 am to
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The last time a caucasian WR over 6'0" has done SOMETHING of note


dang, slippin on my white history

checked ADP on Nelson..5th round

still stand by 13th for deck
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4252 posts
Posted on 7/15/12 at 2:50 am to
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dang, slippin on my white history


No problem.

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checked ADP on Nelson..5th round

still stand by 13th for deck


I think the 5th is a good spot for Nelson, considering he has all but taken over the #2 in that offense.

I respect your opinion for Decker, I'm just saying I can't see him falling anywhere near that far. A lot of people are very high on him. I've been seeing him go around the 8th in about the 20 or so mocks I've done.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 9:15 am to
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what, you got McCaffrey and Jurevicius...draft away



Peyton Manning made Austin Collie relevant.


Decker caught 44 balls and still managed 8 TDs, while Tebow complete 46% of his passes last year. Tim Tebow completed 126 passes last year. 1-2-6!!!!


I watched a lot of Bronco games; Decker was able to get by defenders both underneath and deep. He's not some scrub white boy. If he can stay healthy, he'll be a 70 catch guy with Manning.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 2:56 pm to
guys like collie are the reason people are penciling decker in for a big season "oh manning and has made white guys look good before, and look what this guy did with TEBOW. Pro Bowl!"

I think Thomas is a better talent.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 3:01 pm to
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guys like collie are the reason people are penciling decker in for a big season "oh manning and has made white guys look good before, and look what this guy did with TEBOW. Pro Bowl!"


if Decker hadnt done anything last year then I think you could say that. But he was their most consistent WR all year. I think that counts for something. I think Peyton will look his way often.

But will agree with part of that though. I think a lot of people are expecting the same offense that Peyton ran in IND. But its going to be different. No doubt.


Thomas no doubt has more talent. I think Decker may be the guy though to look at week to week, esp in PPR.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:39 pm to
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. when the last time a caucasian WR over 6'0" has done ANYTHING of note?


I see were Brandon Stokley is listed at 5'11'' but whatever. He still managed to catch for over 1,000 yards and score 10 touchdowns back in '04 with Manning at QB. I know, I know, totally different situation in terms of talent at the WR corps but it just goes to show what Manning can do with an average WR or a scrub white boy, whatever you want to call him.

I really like Thomas but that guy has had some problems staying healthy. Its been tough to get a real gauge on how much these Denver WR's are gonna go in an auction draft. So far, they haven't gotten much attention. I've only done three mocks though.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 7/16/12 at 2:01 am to
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Decker caught 44 balls and still managed 8 TDs, while Tebow complete 46% of his passes last year. Tim Tebow completed 126 passes last year. 1-2-6!!!!


24 of Deckers 44 catches were from Orton

Posted by ryan985
Member since Nov 2011
1796 posts
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:05 am to
You can't go on stats for Denver WRs. When your QB is 4-16, WR stats are going to suck.

Main reason for me liking is Decker is that Manning wanted the Colts to draft Decker two years ago. Must have seen something he liked
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/16/12 at 8:19 am to
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24 catches from Orton


So you are telling me if Orton started all year he would have caught 80 balls?

the last time Orton started all 16 games in Denver he threw 541 passes. Had he thrown that many balls last year, and at the same rate as he was to Decker, Decker would have caught 83 balls.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 7/16/12 at 11:42 pm to
I'll grab Decker after Maclin, Desean and Steve Johnson start coming off the board.
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4252 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:36 am to
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I'll grab Decker after Maclin, Desean and Steve Johnson start coming off the board.


That's a good spot IMO.
Posted by ryan985
Member since Nov 2011
1796 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 6:51 am to
I'm going to try and grab him for my WR3. I kept Megatron and Julio. So I'm going RB, QB, RB, WR unless things change.

Supposed redraft league turned into 2 keepers this year and 4 the following
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 7:47 am to
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Must have seen something he liked



Pretty sure a big part of it was his wonderlic score. I think it was near perfect. Combine that with precise route running and Decker is set to blow up this year. I think in PPR you go Decker > DT but in standard league its probably a push.

Thomas is just such an athletic freak I can see him catching stuff underneath and then breaking a tackle and YAC'n 60 yds to the house
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:10 am to
I think Thomas is the better grab only because teams may start to play Decker similar to Welker.
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:52 am to
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I think Thomas is the better grab only because teams may start to play Decker similar to Welker.



The Welker who catches 100 balls every year?
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:07 am to
Yeah

If Decker is going to play in the slot I could see teams actually keeping him contained and not allowing him to go crazy. He's going to play ball similar to Welker, and since he is in fact not Wes Welker...He shouldn't be expected to put up the numbers.

Manning likes to throw it outside(Wayne). I'd rather go after Thomas knowning that if he could string things together he could be a legit threat.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291036 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:48 pm to
Decker is more like Wayne than Welker
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