re: Anyone likes the idea of this fantasy format....

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The 49ers out scored the the Panthers and still lost while the Panthers won. It's football, it happens. Some games are shootouts, some low scoring. The top 6 winning idea is just ludicrous to me and something I personally would never be a part of.

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It blows my mind that some people actually think like this. If you can't see the difference between an actual football game where a team's offense and defense play against an opponent vs. what happens in fantasy where you set your lineup and have absolutely no control over what your opponent scores then I feel sorry for you.

The only thing you can control in fantasy is scoring points with your players. You have no influence on limiting your opponent. Now you tell me why its not ludicrous for a person to put together a fantasy team that scores 80 points and he gets a win because the "schedule" just so happened to pair him up with an equally terribly managed team that scores 70, meanwhile a strong team scores 130 points and just so happens to be "scheduled" against a team that goes bonkers and scores the most points that week. You're gonna seriously sit there and tell me that 80 point team earned a "win" that week while 130 point team earned the "loss"... and then on top of that justify it by comparing it to an actual football game.

I find that line of thought illogical and ridiculous.

I hear this from a team every year they are always top 2 scorer blah blah blah, but when I actually see it theyre usually like 4th or 5th in points and relatively close to 2nd place in points scored, but not 2nd. Its rare that a team actually 2-3 in points is fighting for playoffs, stop exaggerating.

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I hear this from a team every year they are always top 2 scorer blah blah blah, but when I actually see it theyre usually like 4th or 5th in points and relatively close to 2nd place in points scored, but not 2nd. Its rare that a team actually 2-3 in points is fighting for playoffs, stop exaggerating.

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One of my two leagues the second to last place team at 2-6 has scored more than 100 points more than any other team. It does happen. And if you think about it logically, it makes no sense. All that tells me is that he was extremely unlucky this year. But you no what, with everyone nowadays putting larger and larger sums of money on the line, shouldn't we be trying to eliminate as much of the "luck" factor as possible out of the equation to reward actual skilled players. This guy is gonna miss the playoffs despite being the best this year at what the point of fantasy is... putting together a high scoring team week to week.

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Sounds like a lot of butthurt. Ive been playing fantasy for 12 years and 1 of the top 3-4 managers wins it every year. A good manager can overcome a horrible PA. Suck it up and keep making moves/waiver acquisitions and you'll be in that top tier. Usually the person bitching about their points against is the guy who had a good draft but didn't make the moves required to win.

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There are such things as statistical anomalies. I'm living it in two leagues....there isn't always that positive correction. Sometimes its just week over week of playing the top scorer.

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Ive been playing fantasy for 12 years

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Oh so you should know better...

I wasn't using the amount of years I've spent playing as a brag factor. Simply stating that as long as ive played, the majority of winners were guys who played the right matchups, took risks with waivers, and had a decent draft. I've been in your shoes and am currently dealing with the frickery of playing the top scorer. I also look back and see that I should've started a guy on my bench that I second guessed the matchup, or used a waiver instead of thinking I could benefit from holding onto it.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this discussion. I just think points against ends up leveling out around playoff time. If you made the moves and started the right people, you will be In the hunt.

If you've done all of that and still get beat, well then frick me I guess.

I just think most have the that's the way its always been done mentality. I feel very strongly that when fantasy football was first coming up, if the standard was top 6 bottom 6 W/L, every single person in here would be against if someone showed up and was like how bout instead of rewarding the top half scorers each week, we create a random schedule before the season and everyone plays someone head to head. Nobody would be down for that because it makes no sense in the grand scheme of what you are trying to accomplish in fantasy football.

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I wasn't using the amount of years I've spent playing as a brag factor. Simply stating that as long as ive played, the majority of winners were guys who played the right matchups, took risks with waivers, and had a decent draft. I've been in your shoes and am currently dealing with the frickery of playing the top scorer. I also look back and see that I should've started a guy on my bench that I second guessed the matchup, or used a waiver instead of thinking I could benefit from holding onto it.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this discussion. I just think points against ends up leveling out around playoff time. If you made the moves and started the right people, you will be In the hunt.

If you've done all of that and still get beat, well then frick me I guess.

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And that's the point. There should never be a scenario where someone does all the right things and just has super bad luck week to week. You shouldn't have to pray for PA you to "level off"

So you do all the right things week to week? Always start the right guys? Never have a bench player outscore someone you started? Sounds like you should switch to daily fantasy and you would dominate.

Gyno gets it.