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Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by LSUTigers00884
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2011
1160 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:07 pm
If you put 3% down on a home, I understand you’ll pay PMI.

But do you stop paying PMI once you reach 20% equity?

Thanks.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15165 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:09 pm to
Yes

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Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8755 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:20 pm to
Only if it’s a conventional loan
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:20 pm to
Yes and no. Must have a two year satisfactory payment history of the pmi before it can be canceled.

Also, it doesn't automatically drop off until 78%. You will typically have to do a couple steps with your mortgage company when you get to or think you hit 20% equity. Those steps are usually fairly simple though.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35479 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:27 pm to
FHA Rules

quote:

You can remove PMI after 11 years if you put more than 10% down. The FHA no longer allows borrowers to cancel FHA MIP after the LTV has reached 78%. You can still avoid paying mortgage insurance after you have paid down your loan-to-value to 80% or less, such as refinancing your FHA loan to a conventional loan.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:28 pm to
Good bit of info.

Essentially, if it's a conventional loan, yes. You must carry it for a minimum of 2 years. Once you reach an LTV of 80% you can request that your lender remove it. Each lender has a different set of requirements but it basically comes down to the loan holder having to pay for an appraisal on the home to verify the value.

Your lender is required by law to remove PMI once you hit 22% equity/78% LTV.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 4:33 pm
Posted by tissle
Member since Jul 2009
1954 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:26 pm to
Took a Conventional loan and put 5% down.
Paid PMI for 2 years. Got my house reappraised. Value went up by significantly. No more PMI for me.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18726 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:45 am to
That is what I did many years ago. The appraisal paid for itself in a few months.
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
740 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Only if it’s a conventional loan


what about VA loans with 0 down?
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
740 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:27 am to
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 8:28 am
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:42 am to
0 mortgage insurance whatsoever on a VA loan. They do have what is called a VA funding fee though. It is an unpfront fee that can vary in percentage based on your downpayment and whether or not you have a VA disability.
Posted by sodcutterjones
Member since May 2018
1242 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:47 am to
And you have to inquire with your mortgage holder, right? They’re not going to cancel it automatically? Just a question I have as I’m on the verge of getting close to that 80% marker.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

But do you stop paying PMI once you reach 20% equity?


No. Many loans will require 22%.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

And you have to inquire with your mortgage holder, right? They’re not going to cancel it automatically? Just a question I have as I’m on the verge of getting close to that 80% marker.



Correct each mortgage servicer is a little in their list of things that needs to get done to drop off at 20%. Automatic at 78% though as long as it has been 24 months.

If you are that close to hitting the 80% mark look to see if you can get it dropped off now with an appraisal. Most companies will allow this if you pay for an appraiser and it appraises for 80% LTV or less. (Note: only do this if the appraisal costs less than the Mortgage Insurance X amount of months left for you to pay.)
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

lso, it doesn't automatically drop off until 78%. You will typically have to do a couple steps with your mortgage company when you get to or think you hit 20% equity. Those steps are usually fairly simple though.


Typically you have to contact them and ask that it be removed. They may ask you for a statement in writing your wish to have the account reviewed. If you meet their criteria they will drop it.
Posted by IntenseKid
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
2760 posts
Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:00 am to
We built a house in BR late 2017 and I want to say we didn’t put anything down. I was told the only way to get rid of PMI is to sell or refinance and you should only refinance if you get a better rate than you currently have.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 3:00 am
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
1870 posts
Posted on 4/14/19 at 9:25 am to
quote:

We built a house in BR late 2017 and I want to say we didn’t put anything down. I was told the only way to get rid of PMI is to sell or refinance and you should only refinance if you get a better rate than you currently have.


That sounds like you have FHA/VA/RD. The government backed loans let you put down less down payment but you're stuck with the monthly PMI for the life of the loan. Conventional loans can get rid of it as the posters above have described
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