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re: Eleven Madison Park Going Meatless

Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:19 pm to
There are lots of restaurants with multiple Michelin stars who are able to serve sustainably raised and harvested meats, fish, shellfish, etc. So why can’t they?

Would have a bit more verve behind this announcement if they just said we want to run a vegan 3 star restaurant. Sustainability is just cover for “coming out of this pandemic and NYC being decimated we need to lower cost but keep price the same.”

ETA: That group also has a lot of restaurants around the globe, are they going meatless at all of them?
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162198 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:35 pm to
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Yea, if you live in Houma.

Not the food Mecca of the country

I live in Raleigh, NC

Haven't been to Houma in about a decade
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12262 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:03 pm to
I have been to Eleven Madison Park. It was an incredible dining experience. I am glad I went there in its heyday.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Sustainability is just cover for “coming out of this pandemic and NYC being decimated we need to lower cost but keep price the same.”


Bingo
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28889 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:57 am to
Not paying $500 for a tasting menu of lentils and mushrooms
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 9:06 am
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:23 am to
I made a pledge a year or so ago to write off fine dining. It's far too pretentious, often overhyped, and exorbitantly priced when I could just as easily hop on Yelp or Google and find other outstanding food for a fraction of the price in a much less stuffy atmosphere.

What EMP is doing further convinces me I've made the right choice. I'm not clear how some exclusive restaurant going vegan makes any difference in sustainability in the overall food world (it doesn't). This is a giant "look at me!" moment, virtue signaling bullshite.

That said, get ready for the RAVE reviews from the sheep who will patronize EMP and happily spend $500/person for wine and veggies just so that they can brag to their friends how incredibly good it was and how BOLD the chef is!
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:24 am to
This thread is full of a bunch of "well I'm never going to eat there now" posts from people who were never going to eat there to begin with.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:34 am to
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This thread is full of a bunch of "well I'm never going to eat there now" posts from people who were never going to eat there to begin with.


Nah. I've been to my fair share of places with Michelin stars. There isn't much logic in paying $400+ (before you even open a bottle) for an experience that costs the business about a 1/10th or an 1/8th (at most) of that before labor. The marginal difference in quality just doesn't make up for it.

Achatz has tooled around with vegan and vegetarian seasons at times, and he has always quickly reverted back to animal protein thereafter.
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