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Chef Alon Shaya to open new restaurant in New Orleans' Four Seasons hotel

Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:56 pm
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The Four Seasons hotel now taking shape in the World Trade Center is transforming one of the most recognizable buildings on the New Orleans skyline. When it opens next year, it will have a new restaurant from a chef New Orleans already knows well.

Alon Shaya, chef of the Uptown restaurant Saba, and his wife and business partner Emily Shaya are developing the new restaurant, now slated to open in early 2021.


Curious to see how the city rebounds from Covid and embraces his new concept.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:08 pm to
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Curious to see how the city rebounds from Covid
wont miss a beat



Will be back to having a record year for tourist year after year after year, again come 2022
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:52 pm to
That’s a silly statement.

I think, and hope, New Orleans will bounce back. But acting like New Orleans won’t skip a beat after all this is just burying your head in the sand.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:00 pm to
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wont miss a beat
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:30 am to
Brave move.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:41 am to
Nice. Expect it'll do well.

Think the city will rebound from covid just fine. This isn't a New Orleans specific thing like Katrina. The higher % of small businesses that closed here is simply due to the over saturation we already had.

When travel starts to open back up, why wouldn't people come here? Anyone stating otherwise is simply trying to push fear porn.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:13 am to
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When travel starts to open back up, why wouldn't people come here? Anyone stating otherwise is simply trying to push fear porn


Tourism isn’t going to bring the city out of debt
That industry will be fine but what about the rest
Taxes are going to go up which will drive people that can move out of the city
After Katrina you had the fed money plus the boom from the rebuilding
There is nothing to rebuild this time
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:20 am to
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Tourism isn’t going to bring the city out of debt
That industry will be fine but what about the rest


Tourism, Medical, the Port, and O&G are all major city revenues.

Superbowls, NCAA Final Fours, bowl games, concerts, bachelor parties and the 130+ permitted festivals per year will still eventually go on regardless if our favorite local watering hole closed.

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Taxes are going to go up which will drive people that can move out of the city


Taxes are going to go up everywhere. No local government was immune to it. It's conjecture to say people will simply "just leave". Many people live here for work or family and won't just uproot in mass droves to other cities. The south by large has an extremely low cost of living. Why wouldn't those who live in high cost of living areas having tax increases move here? The knife cuts both ways.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:47 am to
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O&G are all major city revenues.


O&G is on its deathbed and in LA and especially Nola. If Biden wins its over

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Taxes are going to go up everywhere. No local government was immune to it. It's conjecture to say people will simply "just leave". Many people live here for work or family and won't just uproot in mass droves to other cities.

They aren't moving across the country, they can move to the next parish or across the lake and get better schools and infrastructure while paying less
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:52 am to
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They aren't moving across the country, they can move to the next parish or across the lake and get better schools and infrastructure while paying less


I know multiple families looking to move out of Orleans currently. I see that as an indicator. I think we are going to lose some of the options for restaurants and bars in the short term and it will be many years before we get back to where we were in 2019. But that could be as much a factor of the Free Market as COVID. We were starting to see places close right before this whole thing started. There is a ceiling to the market and I think we had passed that.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:55 am to
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they can move to the next parish


And who will buy their existing houses in NOLA? Or will these families just leave them abandoned?
Having a robust tourism industry is a mitigation against the reliance on local industry for income revenue. It's quick to decline when shite hits the fan, but also quick to recover once things begin to open back up.

Anyway, I digress. Don't want to derail this thread any longer with politics, pandemics, and economics.

Glad to see Shaya branch out to traditional south Louisiana cuisine.
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“Part of what I love so much about my experiences here have been eating at restaurants like Commander’s Palace, Galatoire’s, Brennan’s, Brigtsen’s, K-Paul’s, Emeril’s. All those helped shape my view of what grand dining can be. I love the allure of it, the history of it. I’m excited to be part of something like that.”


Excited to see his passion and can't wait to try it out when it opens.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 9:59 am
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116108 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:02 am to
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Tourism, Medical, and O&G are all major city revenues.


True, but why doesn't the port ever get mentioned? It is THE reason the city exists. 48% of the entire country's exports left out of the Port of New Orleans in 2019.

This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:04 am to
I went add it for you.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32442 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:22 am to
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True, but why doesn't the port ever get mentioned? It is THE reason the city exists. 48% of the entire country's exports left out of the Port of New Orleans in 2019.


Speaking of this, I was having a conversation with a bartender at a brewery in a small Montana town (population <1k) this past week and she mentioned her husband's family moved to New Orleans from Washington state to work for the port.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing Shaya's take on Louisiana food.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:31 am to
Thanks!!
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Think the city will rebound from covid just fine


I really wish I shared you optimism. I'm not sure people understand how much the convention/business travel means to the Nola economy(in addition to regular tourism). That segment is going to be really bad for a long time. Companies have realized they don't need in person meetings as much and due to Covid, etc they are cutting out travel in a major way.

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This isn't a New Orleans specific thing like Katrina.


And that's part of the problem. After Katrina, the whole world wanted to share love with and throw money at Nola as well as come visit, etc. Now the rest of the country and world is suffering.

I'm not predicting doomsday, just saying we aren't going to be nearly back to "normal" until several years down the road.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:46 pm to
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they are cutting out travel in a major way.


Then what happens to hotels and airlines? I mean, think of business travel and the impact on hotels and airlines for business travel. Maybe it will come back full swing, just not for a couple or years? To say that it’s going to be nonexistent forever is a bit too extreme in my opinion.
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