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DISH suing multiple IPTV providers and subscribers in fight against IPTV

Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:59 am
Posted by Bamboozles
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:59 am
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Dish has a growing list of lawsuits targeting IPTV service and a ever increasing number of wins. This week Dish and NagraStar filled another lawsuit targeting multiple IPTV providers including TVStreamsNow and OneStepTV according to a report from TorrentFreak.

Recently Dish won a lawsuit against SET TV an IPTV service that reportedly streamed content owned by DISH without permission. As part of the lawsuit ending SET TV was ordered to pay DISH $90 million. A few months ago Dish also won $2 million more in damages from a SET TV reseller called A-Box TV a website that sold SET TV and was reportedly run by Julie Bishop. Now it seems that Dish wants to use these victories as precedent to go after others.


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What is interesting here is that Dish is also suing IPTV providers that have already agreed to turn over their domains to the Alliance For Creativity and Entertainment. (ACE) It seems very clear that Dish wants to make examples out of anyone who runs or even resells an IPTV service that they can find.

This lawsuit from Dish targets the owners and companies behind multiple IPTV services including imoTV, TVStreamsNow, OneStepTV, IbexTV, and MagnumStreams. Dish is claiming these services streamed content that Dish owned exclusive rights to inside the United States. So far Dish has successfully won their fights with IPTV providers and resellers on this ground.


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Dish has also started to go after subscribers of IPTV services. Through DISH’s NagraStar’s SatScams.com joint venture DISH this year also began to go after people who stream DISH-owned content through IPTV services.


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Here is one example of a story of an IPTV subscriber that was posted on NagraStar’s website recently:

Hello.
I heard about rocket IPTV and set about subscribing to it. I wasn’t positive it was illegal, but I figured it probably was. I went ahead anyway as I had just been disabled and figured I’d have a lot of TV time ahead plus I was pretty broke. It was a bad, wrong idea and if I can pay my way out of this I’ll be glad again. Sadderbutwiser (and poorer!)

Here is one more example of a subscriber who received a letter from DISH’s NagraStar:

I made a mistake. Four years ago, I made a payment to a subscription [service] to watch TV channels. I thought I was not committing any crime. I was wrong. I was watching Dish Network channels including premium channels. I received a certified letter from NagraStar telling me to communicate with them. The staff explained to me very professionally the process to follow to solve the situation. I agreed to a payment plan with them to fulfill my responsibility for the mistake I made. What I have come up with is a lesson in life. I learned to be more cautious with the services they offer online. I recommend not subscribing to any illegal service online. If you have doubt about a service do not subscribe. The consequences are terrible. My recommendation for all the people who have received the letter is that they communicate with NagraStar and assume responsibility in good faith. It is not worth getting into legal lawsuits if an agreement can be reached.

This is likely just the start of lawsuits going after IPTV from Dish and other groups like ACE.



Is the end coming soon for IPTV?
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 7:52 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:06 am to
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I agreed to a payment plan with them to fulfill my responsibility for the mistake I made.


Was this written by one of the lawyers from NagraStar? Both "personal accounts" of individuals settling seemed a little weird and less than authentic.

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Is the end coming soon for IPTV?


I don't think these services are really needed for TV. You have a variety of choices of legit streamers, even at the low end. If you actively manage your subscriptions and jump from service to service you can watch most of what you want to watch for a relatively low price.

Movies on the other hand are still in need of disruption. I won't be happy until we get parity with RedBox on streaming rentals. If I can rent a BluRay for under $2 then I should be able to stream a hiqh quality HD or UHD stream for under $2.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43468 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:11 am to
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Is the end coming soon for IPTV?


Yes.

And for those with fire sticks with side loaded apps you better believe Amazon is watching everything you do and it's just a matter of time before someone comes after you for it
Posted by Auslander
Chasing the Sun
Member since Jun 2019
311 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:39 am to
Remember when napster got the ax bc of Metallica? How's the CD sales since then?

Technology is like a hydra; cut one and 3 pop up. Just use a VPN purchased with a prepaid credit card so it won't be tracked back to you.
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
2302 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:53 am to
Purchase VPN with prepaid credit card or IPTV subscription with prepaid credit card or both?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:59 pm to
LOL not worried

use a VPN if you are stressing it

DISH going after my IPTV provider isn't going to happen bc they are based in Holland
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 5:21 pm to
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DISH going after my IPTV provider isn't going to happen bc they are based in Holland


TDIL you can’t sue a company based in Holland
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:44 pm to
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DISH going after my IPTV provider isn't going to happen bc they are based in Holland


I wouldn't be so sure of that. I have the same provider as you as well. There's a PayPal trail.
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
2302 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:43 am to
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use a VPN if you are stressing it 


Of course I am using a VPN, and my service is not US based either, but it's the PayPal trail that makes me wonder. Guess will go to prepaid CC when it's time to renew
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5555 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 9:51 am to
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Purchase VPN with prepaid credit card or IPTV subscription with prepaid credit card or both?


Why would you use a prepaid card to buy a VPN? They are not illegal and most companies make their subscriber lists private. 90% of major corporations and universities use VPNs
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:14 pm to
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Of course I am using a VPN, and my service is not US based either, but it's the PayPal trail that makes me wonder. Guess will go to prepaid CC when it's time to renew



Yea my provider has you pay a ghost online gaming stream account

Nothing connects it to the company
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Is the end coming soon for IPTV?

Looks more like the end for DISH to me.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:42 am to
Looking forward to learning about the legality of iptv
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 12:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 6:08 am to
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Guess will go to prepaid CC when it's time to renew

last time i looked into it, prepaid CCs require all your information. that loophole died years ago
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 6:42 am to
Some providers take BTC as well. That's not really anonymous either, but it's probably a lot less likely that Dish will pay to spend the time analyzing the block chain to figure out where the money came from.
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