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re: Alleva Termination Timeline - between October 13 and December 9?

Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Martin Blank
Member since Sep 2005
397 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:24 am to
The "time critical" phrase had to do with Miles getting a $100k bump in his possible, potential, theoretical (whatever adjective you need to understand it wasn't an actual raise) bowl incentives. He was fired September 25 and that meeting was October 9. So voting on the bowl incentives of a coach you just fired wasn't a high priority.

No reason to think the BOS wouldn't look at firing Alleva as anything other than "time sensitive."
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8070 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:28 am to
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I want Alleva fired more than I've ever wanted anyone fired in my life.

Alleva is already gone.

It's not that he hired CEO -- it's that he gave CEO a $12M buyout. That's what gets him fired.
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:30 am to
In.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10200 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:32 am to
regardless of the consensus on Coach O, I think we all 100% agree Alleva has to go first, and go now!!!
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:32 am to
They'll start caring when next year's ticket sales go down and big donors tell them to frick off until you make real changes. Don't see how anyone who's donating millions to LSU feels comfortable with this administration handling their money. I'd cut the checks off until I see change. If it makes LSU suffer for it so be it. That's the only way you're going to get anything done. All about money.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14865 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:38 am to
Some of us have tried to explain that ceo and AD are not tied to F King. JA is the issue and the Bos have the responsibility of dealing with him
Posted by Just_Fight_Baby
Haunting the Indian Mounds
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:39 am to
I've only seen about two comments from folks not understanding in the past day, which to me is impressive all things considered.

Doesn't this feel like we're repeating history a little? i.e. the Joe Dean era? Would enjoy hearing some talk about that time from folks who remember those days. And DiNardo? The period just before Saban came here.

I was out of the loop during that time.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:46 am to
Firing Alleva immediately or within this season will tell us the LSU Bos acknowledges the issue with the football program and will give notice to the fans that they are wanting to turn the program back into a winning one. Hopefully Alleva will be fired sooner rather than later.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
918 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:51 am to
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Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:54 am to
Yeah a Empty Valley against one of your SEC Rivals getting blown out for the nation to see will seal the deal imo.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23058 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:56 am to
Just do it. End it. He's a terrible AD.
Posted by Martin Blank
Member since Sep 2005
397 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:56 am to
Agreed. I'm just trying to figure out if there is a practical way to get Alleva fired before the December 9 BOS meeting.

No point in firing Alleva incorrectly to satisfy the bloodlust of the LSU fanbase, only to owe him more money on the back end, and scare off good AD replacement candidates.

But if there is a way to do it properly AND fast, I'm hoping someone on this board knows it.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17886 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:08 pm to
There is procedure, as in getting items on the agenda. And then there is making the change happen in ways that aren't held up by procedure. Example of the latter:

" Joe, our BOS meeting in 3 weeks is going to ratify your removal. I think we'd both prefer to part ways quickly. Let's sit down and work out resignation terms."
Posted by Martin Blank
Member since Sep 2005
397 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:45 pm to
That makes a lot of sense, but would give Alleva a lot of power in that negotiation (insert joke here). He could take a slight haircut to go away quietly, but the natives get more restless with each passing day so Joe knows that if he stalls he can get more $ from the BOS. Regardless of how much power being on the BOS gives you, it's no fun getting pounded by angry calls and emails from pissed off fans.

Plus, Alleva can always just keep saying no, and once the BOS fires him they owe him the full buyout ($525k per year from now til June 30,2020 less income from future employment over the next 5 1/2 years). Other than saving face, there isn't much the BOS can use to induce Alleva to "resign" this way.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17886 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:51 pm to
Well, actually, you go ahead and give him basically his entire buyout if he resigns today. It's a wash monetarily to Alleva, and he doesn't have to continue to work at a job that he hates and knows he's lost anyway.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26272 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:57 pm to
I believe Alleva will either step down or be fired within 2 weeks.

LSU has to start planning for the possibility of finding a new coach at season's end, and that will require an AD not named Joe Alleva. Hiring an AD won't happen overnight.
Posted by Just_Fight_Baby
Haunting the Indian Mounds
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:20 pm to
I want Alleva gone as bad as anyone - serious questions though:

(1) assuming there are no qualified candidates already expressing interest behind the scenes, how much time could we reasonably expect the selection process to take?

(2) is it common practice to appoint interim staff if the AD is removed? I am assuming yes, but asking - and wondering who is in the admin now that might step in temporarily.

(3) what impact (if any) would Alleva's removal have on our collective athletic programs in the short-term? Can we trust the current administration to implement a strategy that holds things together long enough for a thorough and proper AD search process?

I have to believe administrative staff are already wrapping their heads around contingencies.
Posted by Just_Fight_Baby
Haunting the Indian Mounds
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:39 pm to
Fired within two weeks - hope you're right. If not after Auburn, my next guess would be after the Ole Miss game.
Posted by djc2350
Member since Aug 2011
72 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:56 pm to
Any info or just your opinion?
Posted by Fan of Football
Jeanerette
Member since Sep 2016
657 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:10 am to
We GOT to fire that cocksnorter ASAP if we want to keep from turning into a shitty bottom dwellar like ole piss or missuri
quote:

Alleva


Fire his arse and bring in some big name make us on the right track to be elite again
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