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re: How Powerful was Carlos Marcello?
Posted on 11/21/21 at 12:31 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 11/21/21 at 12:31 pm to prplhze2000
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Yup. You think Partin testified against Hoffa without his permission?
I never really thought about it, I just assumed everyone thought since he was a Teamster from so close to Nola that he was automatically connected, which proved to be a mistake. Although, I'm sure Carlos was high up on the list of people upset by Hoffa running around threatening to start telling secrets.
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 12:54 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:and Saigon was the Paris of the East
It absolutely was. It was literally called that
The moniker doesn’t mean all that much
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:28 pm to sugar71
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sugar71
Racist idiot.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:15 pm to Hangover Haven
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Matter of fact, the term Mafia, (AKA the Black Hand) was coined in New Orleans.
Ok, I know this part isn't true. There's some mystery on the root origin of the term, but it dates back hundreds of years in Italy, possibly even to an Arabic root word.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:54 pm to PowerTool
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Ok, I know this part isn't true. There's some mystery on the root origin of the term, but it dates back hundreds of years in Italy, possibly even to an Arabic root word.
The Black Hand (which was eventually all whacked out by New Orleans mobsters) was first documented in North America in New Orleans. Vito Rizzuto's (Montreal powerhouse boss) grandfather immigrated through New Orleans, as well as many other future mobsters.
Sicilian and Calabrese immigrants were first coming through the port of New Orleans. Many stayed in La, and many were sent to other cities and set up shop.
ETA: There are many that think the Axe Man of New Orleans killings were black hand hits.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:39 pm to TigenPenn
Control of port of nola
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:45 pm to Kafka
Those articles are treasures! I like how they are good reads whether you’re a lover, a hater, or just interested.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:07 pm to Havoc
Carlos' organization controlled Concordia Parish in the 40s, 50s, 60s, until early 70s. Slots, prostitutes, and more than one body turned up in Concordia back then.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:13 pm to FreeState
He controlled a lot of territory but the entire state of La was controlled with an iron fist when it came to outsiders. While he was a shrewd and fearsome guy, he was a La baw just the same and I would imagine loved Louisiana.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:51 pm to TigenPenn
my grandfather was a Jefferson Parish councilman from approx. 1955 ~ 1967. He ran on a platform that he wouldn't be bought or strong-armed by the N.O. Mafia. Gambling was illegal in JP and everyone knew about gaming houses that were on the Orleans/Jefferson Parish border and run by Carlos Marcello and his associates.
In 1957, my grandfather along with an unarmed deputized citizen raided Vic Gallo's gaming house claiming Sheriff William Coci was being to soft and not enforcing the illegal gambling laws. A week later, a bomb was found inside their trashcan, the neighborhhod was evacuated, and the FBI investigated the matter. My grandfather worked for Zet's 7-Up Bottling Company as a route salesman. He orchestrated business deals with many of the local bars and restaurants for the 7-Up beverage products.
Since my grandfather had been a vocal proponent against gambling which effected the pocketbook of Marcello and his friends, business and restaurant owners quit doing business with Zet's. My grandfather was eventually let go from Zet's on the grounds of causing a decrease in sales due to his political views against the Sheriff and gambling.
I have no doubt my grandfather could have been "whacked" and found inside an abandoned car trunk off Airline Hwy. Marcello used his power to force my GF out of his job and eventually walk away from politics.
On a different note, while in office, my grandfather and the other councilman voted to create the Bissonet Plaza Subdivision (see pic below) to expand Jefferson Parish North of I-10 . Streets were named in their honor ...Blanke, Schouest, Gillen, and Wilty. Prior to his passing in 2001, my grandfather worked under Harry Lee as a deputy Sheriff at the JP Clerk of Court on David Drive
In 1957, my grandfather along with an unarmed deputized citizen raided Vic Gallo's gaming house claiming Sheriff William Coci was being to soft and not enforcing the illegal gambling laws. A week later, a bomb was found inside their trashcan, the neighborhhod was evacuated, and the FBI investigated the matter. My grandfather worked for Zet's 7-Up Bottling Company as a route salesman. He orchestrated business deals with many of the local bars and restaurants for the 7-Up beverage products.
Since my grandfather had been a vocal proponent against gambling which effected the pocketbook of Marcello and his friends, business and restaurant owners quit doing business with Zet's. My grandfather was eventually let go from Zet's on the grounds of causing a decrease in sales due to his political views against the Sheriff and gambling.
I have no doubt my grandfather could have been "whacked" and found inside an abandoned car trunk off Airline Hwy. Marcello used his power to force my GF out of his job and eventually walk away from politics.
On a different note, while in office, my grandfather and the other councilman voted to create the Bissonet Plaza Subdivision (see pic below) to expand Jefferson Parish North of I-10 . Streets were named in their honor ...Blanke, Schouest, Gillen, and Wilty. Prior to his passing in 2001, my grandfather worked under Harry Lee as a deputy Sheriff at the JP Clerk of Court on David Drive
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:55 pm to Got Blaze
Crazy story, and crazy to think about. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:01 pm to Got Blaze
Your grandpa sounds like a narc.
Cool story though, I like reading this
Cool story though, I like reading this
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:42 pm to Got Blaze
Good for him. I hope he had a good life.
I laugh when pathetic people try to glamorize the mafia shite. The movie Donnie Brasco is a more realistic portrayal, buncha street rats haggling over stolen packs of cigarettes and nickel and dime shite.
And like your story, ruin good people that stand in their way.
I laugh when pathetic people try to glamorize the mafia shite. The movie Donnie Brasco is a more realistic portrayal, buncha street rats haggling over stolen packs of cigarettes and nickel and dime shite.
And like your story, ruin good people that stand in their way.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:51 pm to BorrisMart
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The Black Hand (which was eventually all whacked out by New Orleans mobsters) was first documented in North America in New Orleans. Vito Rizzuto's (Montreal powerhouse boss) grandfather immigrated through New Orleans, as well as many other future mobsters.
Sicilian and Calabrese immigrants were first coming through the port of New Orleans. Many stayed in La, and many were sent to other cities and set up shop.
ETA: There are many that think the Axe Man of New Orleans killings were black hand hits.
New Orleans had a huge Italian immigrant population back in the early 20th century. Maybe the highest or among it.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:48 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Would think they owned politicians, including sheriffs, who all had complete control of little fiefdoms we call parishes. When I was in elementary school in Videlia, the Concordia Parish Sheriff was Noah Cross. In the 70's, he was convicted of perjury after saying he did not take bribes from the owner of a bar that had gambling and was a whore house.
Port City and union control would be my guess. Alcohol and gambling as a kicker.
You can imagine how close a man like Marcello might be to people in those types of positions. He may have been getting monthly payments just like the sheriff did. He may have gotten tributes from the sheriffs. Who knows? New Orleans and parishes like Concordia were like living in another country with the vices that were rampant.
Noah Cross wiki
Cross' lead deputy, Frank DeLaughter, also went to jail for racketeering and for violating the civil rights of a black prisoner he beat. A little bit about him is on that Noah Cross wiki page.
If you want to check out some of the other things that went on in Concordia check out these Concordia Sentinel articles
My dad worked at the IP mill in Natchez. Guys that worked there tried to recruit him, and my mom's brother in law, who also went to work there, into the Klan.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:52 pm to chinese58
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the Concordia Parish Sheriff was Noah Cross
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:41 am to TigenPenn
I think at one point in the 1960s he was the richest.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:58 am to TigenPenn
An old coworker’s father ran book for him. I have no doubt the JFK involvement is true.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 8:46 am to Picayuner
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As I see it there’s only 3 uniquely wonderful cities in the USA NYC, San Francisco and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland.
You mean as Mark Twain saw it?
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