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46 years ago today the gales of November came early...

Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:05 am
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:05 am
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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SS Edmund Fitzgerald was an American Great Lakes freighter that sank in Lake Superior during a storm on November 10, 1975, with the loss of the entire crew of 29 men. When launched on June 7, 1958, she was the largest ship on North America's Great Lakes, and she remains the largest to have sunk there. She was located in deep water on November 14, 1975, by a U.S. Navy aircraft detecting magnetic anomalies, and found soon afterwards to be in two large pieces.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:07 am to
When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
"Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya"
At seven PM, a main hatchway caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"

eerie !
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:07 am to
Amazing song.
[img]With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early[/img]


Excellent use of energy and tempo,


And what’s crazy is he makes it have this feel like it was some long long ago event, but it was in the mid 70s!
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 7:13 am
Posted by FredBear
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:10 am to
quote:

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
"Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya"
At seven PM, a main hatchway caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"

eerie !





Yeah, Gordon Lightfoot did a really good job of capturing the feel and tone of that event with that song. It was well done
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 7:12 am
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Yeah, Gordon Lightfoot did a really good job of capturing the feel and tone of that event with that song. It was well done




One of my favourite couplets

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Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?


It’s haunting
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:21 am to
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Yeah, Gordon Lightfoot did a really good job of capturing the feel and tone of that event with that song
For outside observers, sure.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:23 am to
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For outside observers, sure



Kind of hard to do it for the crew, eh?
It’s Gordon Lightfoot, not LightFin
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:27 am to
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For outside observers, sure.

Who else is going to hear it? The crew?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:34 am to
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fr33manator

I was coming in here to praise the song and make a joke about you because it's basically a poem, but you're already all up in here.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:36 am to
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Gordon Lightfoot did a really good job of capturing the feel and tone of that event with that song. It was well done



awesome song, I always used to chuckle when people would comment on the song "Woodstock," saying "Joni Mitchell wrote that six months after Woodstock and she wasn't even there," my comeback thought was always Gordon Lightfoot did a hell of a job on EF and he wasn't on the boat?
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 7:44 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:42 am to
T’was the witch of November come stealing
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:48 am to
Still a hotly debated topic.

Why did the big ship go down? Negligence? McSorley pushing too hard? A "three sisters" rogue wave? Did they bounce off the six fathom shoal? Defective hatch covers?

So many questions.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:50 am to
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Why did the big ship go down? Negligence? McSorley pushing too hard? A "three sisters" rogue wave? Did they bounce off the six fathom shoal? Defective hatch covers?



the searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay if they'd put fifteen more miles behind her
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:50 am to
When we went to Disney this year and walked into Epcot there was an instrumental version of this playing over the system throughout the park. I definitely do not expect that walking in.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:56 am to
the wreck was 11/10
the Newsweek article lightfoot used for inspiration was two weeks later.
the song was written and recorded within two weeks after that

amazing that something so classic and enduring was created and captured so perfectly so quickly
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:57 am to
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I was coming in here to praise the song and make a joke about you because it's basically a poem


Aren’t all songs?

If you take away the musical accompaniment, it’s all poetry.

quote:

but you're already all up in here.


It’a easily a top 10 folk ballad, and that’s my jam.
I’ve written at least 2 parodies of this song.

One about The LSU-Miss State game
Wreck of the Dawgs and Fitzgerald when Fitzgerald was their QB. That was an awesome game.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:03 am to
I wasn't asking you to post more poetry, dude. Jesus.

I was just commenting in jest about this thread in particular. But you still can't help yourself.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by fr33manator
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:03 am to
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amazing that something so classic and enduring was created and captured so perfectly so quickly


When something is inspired it just flows. There’s no agonizing over this word or that rhyme.
You just write, as if possessed, and when you are finished you look back and say “damn…I wrote this?” It’s like a dream state.
I’ve read that Don McLean wrote/recorded American Pie in a single take. I Imagine lightfoot did much the same with EF. You can hear it in the music.

You have a story full of raw emotion and a tune in your head and the words just fall into place.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:11 am to
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if they'd put fifteen more miles behind her



When they picked up the list, McSorley decided to slow down and let Arthur Anderson close the distance.

How fricked up is this? The USCG asked the Anderson's skipper to turn around and go look for Fitz survivors.

And he did.

quote:

Coast Guard: Think there's any possibility that you could turn around do any searching, over?

Cooper: Oh God, I don't know. That sea out there is tremendously large. If you want me to, I can but I'm not going to be making any time. I'll be lucky to do two or three miles per hour going back out that way, over.

Coast Guard: It looks like with the information we have that it is fairly certain that the Fitzgerald went down. We're talking now a matter of life and death and looking for survivors that might be in life rafts or in the water. We can only ask the masters to do their best without hazarding their vessels.


And they recovered the first debris from Fitz.

I'm not sure I would have done it. If I'm the captain and I just brought my ship in with all hands to go back out in that storm that I know took a big ship - how to ask the men to that? And worse, if we lose someone then, how do I look at the family?
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:14 am to
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee.
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