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The biggest loser of the Durham indictments: James Comey's FBI
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:42 am
Special Counsel John Durham's latest criminal case is as much an indictment of James Comey's FBI as it is of the primary source of the Steele dossier, whom Durham accuses of repeatedly lying to agents.
The Steele dossier was the central evidence used by the FBI to win four consecutive FISA warrants targeting Trump’s campaign — and in 39 pages of painstaking detail the indictment lays out just how flawed and fake central elements of the dossier were
For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws even though a group of civil lawyers was able to locate several Russians suspected of being Danchenko's sub-sources, interviewing each of them and securing declarations that the information attributed to them in the dossier was wrong or contrived.
"I believe that Mr. Danchenko framed me as Sub-Source 4 to add credibility to his low-quality work, which is not based on real information or in-depth analysis," said the witness declaration from Alexey Sergeyevich Dundich.
"My impression is that Mr. Danchenko fabricated the information published in the Dossier to make quick money," he added. "It is apparent to me that the Dossier is a deliberate fraud and a collection of idle rumors."
Danchenko, a Russian citizen living in the United States who once worked for the liberal think tank the Brookings Institution, is entitled to his day in court to defend himself and offer evidence in his defense.
In the meantime, experts see in Durham's indictment serious red flags for an FBI counterintelligence probe on Comey's and deputy Andrew McCabe's watch before they were fired, an investigation that stretched more than two years without finding any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
"The fact pattern that John Durham is methodically establishing shows what James Comey and Andrew McCabe likely knew from day one, that the Steele Dossier was politically-driven nonsense created at the behest of the Clinton campaign," said Kevin Brock, the FBI's former intelligence chief and one of the bureau's most respected retirees.
Already one former FBI lawyer has admitted he intentionally doctored a piece of evidence to mislead the FISA court.
"Whether through corruption or incompetence, the FBI's central role in facilitating and sustaining the Russian collusion hoax is a stain on its reputation that will be hard to erase," said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), the ranking Republican on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Brock, who retired from the FBI before Comey took over, said that lack of trust is one of the lasting impacts on the FBI from the bungled Russia probe.
"As Comey cashes his royalty checks from a book and a movie, where do everyday, working FBI agents go to get the Bureau's reputation back?" he asked. "The damage done by Comey, McCabe and others to the trust that Americans have traditionally placed in the FBI is incalculable." LINK
The Steele dossier was the central evidence used by the FBI to win four consecutive FISA warrants targeting Trump’s campaign — and in 39 pages of painstaking detail the indictment lays out just how flawed and fake central elements of the dossier were
For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws even though a group of civil lawyers was able to locate several Russians suspected of being Danchenko's sub-sources, interviewing each of them and securing declarations that the information attributed to them in the dossier was wrong or contrived.
"I believe that Mr. Danchenko framed me as Sub-Source 4 to add credibility to his low-quality work, which is not based on real information or in-depth analysis," said the witness declaration from Alexey Sergeyevich Dundich.
"My impression is that Mr. Danchenko fabricated the information published in the Dossier to make quick money," he added. "It is apparent to me that the Dossier is a deliberate fraud and a collection of idle rumors."
Danchenko, a Russian citizen living in the United States who once worked for the liberal think tank the Brookings Institution, is entitled to his day in court to defend himself and offer evidence in his defense.
In the meantime, experts see in Durham's indictment serious red flags for an FBI counterintelligence probe on Comey's and deputy Andrew McCabe's watch before they were fired, an investigation that stretched more than two years without finding any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
"The fact pattern that John Durham is methodically establishing shows what James Comey and Andrew McCabe likely knew from day one, that the Steele Dossier was politically-driven nonsense created at the behest of the Clinton campaign," said Kevin Brock, the FBI's former intelligence chief and one of the bureau's most respected retirees.
Already one former FBI lawyer has admitted he intentionally doctored a piece of evidence to mislead the FISA court.
"Whether through corruption or incompetence, the FBI's central role in facilitating and sustaining the Russian collusion hoax is a stain on its reputation that will be hard to erase," said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), the ranking Republican on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Brock, who retired from the FBI before Comey took over, said that lack of trust is one of the lasting impacts on the FBI from the bungled Russia probe.
"As Comey cashes his royalty checks from a book and a movie, where do everyday, working FBI agents go to get the Bureau's reputation back?" he asked. "The damage done by Comey, McCabe and others to the trust that Americans have traditionally placed in the FBI is incalculable." LINK
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:46 am to Jbird
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For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws
You'll never detect something you're not looking for
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:46 am to Jbird
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The biggest loser of the Durham indictments: James Comey's FBI
I'd call them the biggest winners as Durham appears to be making the case that they were innocent victims in all of this. Just some good hearted do gooders who's eagerness to protect the law was taken advantage of by bad actors outside the bureau. They get off scott free and don't have to take any ownership of their complacency in furthering the Russia narrative.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:46 am to Jbird
This whole episode should lead to the wholesale reshaping of the FISA court.
There needs to be an embedded, ombudsman-type lawyer defending the target whose sole job is to play Devil’s Advocate and somewhat maintain due process.
There needs to be an embedded, ombudsman-type lawyer defending the target whose sole job is to play Devil’s Advocate and somewhat maintain due process.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:46 am to Jbird
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For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws even though a group of civil lawyers was able to locate several Russians suspected of being Danchenko's sub-sources, interviewing each of them and securing declarations that the information attributed to them in the dossier was wrong or contrived.
Because the FBI knowingly collaborated in the creation and furtherance of the Steele Dossier.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:47 am to Jbird
How many of these crooked agents end up getting prison time?Strozyk and Comey should get the firing squad. Anything less than that and they won.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:48 am to Jbird
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”As Comey cashes his royalty checks from a book and a movie, where do everyday, working FBI agents go to get the Bureau's reputation back?"
I’m so tired of hearing this.
Mafia button men are guys just trying to put bread on the table for their families, too. They also know they’re working for a criminal enterprise, and they stay with it.
If you’re a rank-and-file FBI agent, you have to know by now that you’re working for a criminal organization. That makes you a CRIMINAL.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:48 am to Jbird
Are we still pretending anyone is looking at this at face value.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:48 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Rexcatur clear has.
Are we still pretending anyone is looking at this at face value.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:49 am to boosiebadazz
I dont know.
I almost feel like these agencies should be completely untethered from administrations. Perhaps elected directors? At minimum, the IC needs to be cut in half.
I almost feel like these agencies should be completely untethered from administrations. Perhaps elected directors? At minimum, the IC needs to be cut in half.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:50 am to Jbird
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For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws
In view of the current MO of the FBI, I can make a serious guess why they couldn't...
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:50 am to Jbird
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"I believe that Mr. Danchenko framed me as Sub-Source 4 to add credibility to his low-quality work, which is not based on real information or in-depth analysis," said the witness declaration from Alexey Sergeyevich Dundich.
Danchenko didn’t make it up. Political operatives from Hillary’s campaign pushed it to Danchenko and then the FBI pulled it out of him via the dossier.
This was a push/pull operation at every step. Wholly fabricated by the Obama DOJ and Hillary’s team.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:51 am to Godfather1
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Mafia button men are guys just trying to put bread on the table for their families, too. They also know they’re working for a criminal enterprise, and they stay with it.
Anyone that has read books on the Mafia vs the FBI or seen pretty much any true crime documentary(Richard Jewell, Waco, Delorean...seriously pick any doc where the FBI is involved) can see that there is little difference in the FBI and organized crime. They operate the same way, except that the FBI has the govt behind them and may be a little sleazier than the mob.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:53 am to the808bass
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This was a push/pull operation at every step. Wholly fabricated by the Obama DOJ and Hillary’s team.
Agreed. The Isikoff story circularly reinforcing the dossier as a corroborating source, when it was based on the dossier itself is a prime example of this.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:55 am to the808bass
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This was a push/pull operation at every step. Wholly fabricated by the Obama DOJ and Hillary’s team.
Bingo.
The background details of Durham’s three indictments so far have assembled an impressive list of “great Democrats” who contributed directly or indirectly to the creation of the Russia collusion scandal. Indeed, the collusion case increasingly is taking on a type of “Murder on the Orient Express” feel, in which all of the suspects may turn out to be culprits. While the statute of limitations may protect some, Durham has shown that he can use the crime of lying to federal investigators (18 U.S.C. 1001) as a handy alternative. Targets must admit to prior misconduct or face a new charge.
Thus, Durham clearly seems to be making a meticulous case that the Steele dossier was a political hit job orchestrated by Clinton operatives. His latest indictment connects Danchenko to several intriguing figures and groups that, in turn, relate to the Clinton campaign. LINK
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:56 am to DaleGribble
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Anyone that has read books on the Mafia vs the FBI or seen pretty much any true crime documentary(Richard Jewell, Waco, Delorean...seriously pick any doc where the FBI is involved) can see that there is little difference in the FBI and organized crime. They operate the same way, except that the FBI has the govt behind them and may be a little sleazier than the mob.
Yeah.
It’s just basically competing gangs at this point.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:00 am to Jbird
The insane thing is that most liberals still believe 100% the Russian narrative.
No matter how what comes out about the dossier and the FBI, liberals still believe the dossier was 100% truth.
OMB!
Inept FBI or complicit FBI doesn't matter.
OMB!
No matter how what comes out about the dossier and the FBI, liberals still believe the dossier was 100% truth.
OMB!
Inept FBI or complicit FBI doesn't matter.
OMB!
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:01 am to Jbird
Will this go any further than John Solomon calling out the FBI? He is correct, but until there are FBI raids at dawn of the big fish like Comey, McCabe, Mueller and so on and then some... or even the democrat lawyers
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They will never stop and will silence us all as domestic terrorists. The MSM and dems are saying Durham is a hack making things up. Only some serious perp walks will cure this wretched talking point.
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They will never stop and will silence us all as domestic terrorists. The MSM and dems are saying Durham is a hack making things up. Only some serious perp walks will cure this wretched talking point.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:01 am to Jbird
You are assuming the FBI was fooled instead of a willing participant.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:04 am to Jbird
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For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws
No need to detect, they knew all along
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