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If the MAGA/America First movement can destroy identity politics the Dims are done.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:38 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:38 am
Real conservatives need to identify and promote as many qualified black Americans and other minorities who desire to seek public office. If conservatives can find solid minority candidates who truly believe in MAGA/America First and use those candidates as part of a strategy to neuter the Dims go to tactic of identity politics the Dims are in fricking trouble.
America desperately needs people like Winsome Sears, Ben Carson, Candace Ownes, Jason Whitlock, James Golden, Thomas Sowell, Leo Terrell, etc. to become the preferred image for Black Americans. Today, many black Americans are still holding up rappers, athletes and race hustlers as their role models…..this has to change and when it does the Dims primary strategy to divide and conquer using identity politics is likely over
America desperately needs people like Winsome Sears, Ben Carson, Candace Ownes, Jason Whitlock, James Golden, Thomas Sowell, Leo Terrell, etc. to become the preferred image for Black Americans. Today, many black Americans are still holding up rappers, athletes and race hustlers as their role models…..this has to change and when it does the Dims primary strategy to divide and conquer using identity politics is likely over
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:20 am
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:41 am to Bass Tiger
Democrats would have to switch back to being a liberal party, then try to push republicans back into the stodgy conservative image from the George W Bush era. That's not something that would happen without a major transformative figure, and I don't see anyone that could do that. The real liberals are now identifying as independent - and even republicans during the MAGA era.
I would love to see a day when Democrats aren't hard line authoritarians that are the antithesis of real liberalism.
What Democrats have become today should not exist in a mainstream party in the US. They used to defend civil liberties and take their bleeding heart jokes. Now they are totalitarian jerks that want to censor, cancel, and ostracize anyone that doesn't share their increasingly radical, anti-liberalism view of the world. Then they have the nerve to call themselves liberal and sneer at their opponents for being Nazis. It's like they have zero self awareness. Of course our media doesn't exactly challenge them on their major conflicts with classically liberal principles.
Nothing I've seen from the Democratic party in the past 5 years has been anything I'd describe as classically liberal. The republicans, on the other hand, are attracting more of those voters every year. If we see a shift in the Democratic party, it's likely going to be more radical and more extreme totalitarianism....at least until a transformative figure like Trump or Obama comes around and corrects that.
I would love to see a day when Democrats aren't hard line authoritarians that are the antithesis of real liberalism.
What Democrats have become today should not exist in a mainstream party in the US. They used to defend civil liberties and take their bleeding heart jokes. Now they are totalitarian jerks that want to censor, cancel, and ostracize anyone that doesn't share their increasingly radical, anti-liberalism view of the world. Then they have the nerve to call themselves liberal and sneer at their opponents for being Nazis. It's like they have zero self awareness. Of course our media doesn't exactly challenge them on their major conflicts with classically liberal principles.
Nothing I've seen from the Democratic party in the past 5 years has been anything I'd describe as classically liberal. The republicans, on the other hand, are attracting more of those voters every year. If we see a shift in the Democratic party, it's likely going to be more radical and more extreme totalitarianism....at least until a transformative figure like Trump or Obama comes around and corrects that.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:43 am to Bass Tiger
Leo Terrell 
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:45 am to Bass Tiger
I'm happy like everyone else but stop acting like this is the end of the left. They have our public universities churning out out dem voters 10:1 every year. This is going to be a long effort to not lose our country to this sickness that is the modern day liberal.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:48 am to Bass Tiger
while i agree with most everything you said, its going to take time for that many prominent blacks to actually be heard over the amount of money the DNC pours into the churches pockets, and the churches preach to the sheep as to who to vote for. its turning some in the right's direction, but its a slow turn.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:55 am to LB84
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I'm happy like everyone else but stop acting like this is the end of the left.
It's not the end of the left.
But Trump definitely redefined both parties. It's going to be damn hard for either one of them to reinvent itself while he's still alive.
If I'm a Democrat, I'm backing the frick off of this authoritarian stance. Things like mask mandates, burdensome energy regulation, telling parents to piss off about concerns over their kids curriculum, vaccine mandates, social distancing requirements, peeking and spying on our bank accounts, using the FBI as a political gestapo, censorship, banning guns, and undermining right to worship as you see fit......all of those contemporary Democrat principles and tools have to evolve rapidly if they want a chance in 2022 and 2024.
It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:57 am to goofball
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If I'm a Democrat, I'm backing the frick off of this authoritarian stance. Things like mask mandates, burdensome energy regulation, telling parents to piss off about concerns over their kids curriculum, vaccine mandates, social distancing requirements, peeking and spying on our bank accounts, using the FBI as a political gestapo, censorship, banning guns, and undermining right to worship as you see fit.
It’s too late. They’ve gone too far. Trump broke them.
Their strategy was to always drip these extreme policies over many years. Now, they got desperate and shoved all of these authoritarian stances at people at once.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:58 am to goofball
quote:They know exactly what they’re doing.
It's like they have zero self awareness
They act a certain, vile way and as they do it they claim the other side is the one doing it.
Boom, they own the narrative. Republicans then can’t paint the left as what they truly are because it comes off as a teenager yelling “nuh uhhhh you are that!!!”
At best people just think, “oh the two sides are fighting like children again.” At worst they think Republicans are childish pieces of shite.
They recently did it with the “trust science” shite. They own science now and every narrative surrounding it.
Obviously they need the media in their pocket to do all of this. But they have them.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:58 am to caliegeaux
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while i agree with most everything you said, its going to take time for that many prominent blacks to actually be heard over the amount of money the DNC pours into the churches pockets, and the churches preach to the sheep as to who to vote for. its turning some in the right's direction, but its a slow turn.
If Biden/Harris are polling bad with blacks or hispanics, there will be another election year media frenzy around a police shooting or something with a racial element. They will then keep the media focused on that in an effort to scare left wing blacks into showing up to vote. Look for this around summer of 2022 and again in summer of 2024. Pray and hope that the organized riots and protests aren't in your town.
Similar to the 2016, 2018, and 2020 playbook. They will have to focus on an ambiguous issue. If it's too overt, it won't be controversial enough. BLM will resurface since they are a Democrat operative, then go away after the election.
ETA: If crime keeps getting worse in the cities and suburbs, that plan will backfire in a huge way. Suburban moms in Philadelphia, Detroit, NoVa, etc. are definitely taking notice of the significant increase in violent crime. Defund police isn't going to be popular. It might already be floundering as a movement.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:59 am to Bass Tiger
American Chauvinism can destroy CRT and, more importantly, Communism.
When people start talking about America’s ills, tell them to frick off and move out. Having a discussion with those losers is simply engaging in the dialectical trap.
U-S-A
God and country.
When people start talking about America’s ills, tell them to frick off and move out. Having a discussion with those losers is simply engaging in the dialectical trap.
U-S-A
God and country.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:02 am to ReauxlTide222
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They recently did it with the “trust science” shite. They own science now and every narrative surrounding it.
I wish they'd trust the science shared regularly by our economists.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:05 am to burdhead
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Leo Terrell?
Leo seems to be full MAGA now
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:16 am to Bass Tiger
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Real conservatives
Doesn't exist in American politics. Even most people who call themselves conservative aren't conservative.
Republicans aren't conservative and that's probably a good thing. They are the logical, pragmatic party. If anything, they are classical liberals who are a good counter to the emotionally-driven policies and authoritarian governance that has become a Democrat hallmark.
I honestly can't think of a conservative in American politics right now although I know of some that have a few socially conservative views. They aren't very popular.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:25 am to burdhead
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Leo Terrell
Scales seem to have fallen from his eyes.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:41 am to Bass Tiger
When people realize they are working to keep us divided out of fear then the dims are done.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:42 am to Bass Tiger
You contradict yourself.
You said Republicans can destroy identity politics.
I think that would be good.
You say the way to do that is by promoting blacks.
Sorry, but isn't that identity politics? Promoting minorities and blacks because of their skin color.
I hate identity politics no matter what party does it.
Your post is a contradiction.
You said Republicans can destroy identity politics.
I think that would be good.
You say the way to do that is by promoting blacks.
Sorry, but isn't that identity politics? Promoting minorities and blacks because of their skin color.
I hate identity politics no matter what party does it.
Your post is a contradiction.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:44 am to Bass Tiger
Republicans need to legalize weed at the federal level. If they do this, it will be the most lopsided win in history.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:07 am to Bass Tiger
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If the MAGA/America First movement can destroy identity politics the Dims are done
I wish this were true, but I'm afraid it's the opposite. Identity politics is what is keeping the left a fractious mess instead of a unifying big-tent party of mass politics. If the left ever finds a cohesive materialist philosophy that appeals to Union Bob in Ohio in the same way that it appeals to Gay Jerry in San Francisco and Soccer Mom Monica in Florida, they are going to be much more dangerous. As it is, they are too busy infighting and purity-testing each other to coexist. When this fad woke politics falls out of vogue, the reds/Bernie Bros will get back to winning over the retarded youth just like they have for the past 200 years.
TL;DR - Identity politics is what keeps Democrats (the majority of this country) from finding the collective will to redistribute wealth.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:08 am to RBWilliams8
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Republicans need to legalize weed at the federal level.
Why?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:12 am to Bass Tiger
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Real conservatives need to identify and promote as many qualified black Americans and other minorities who desire to seek public office. If conservatives can find solid minority candidates who truly believe in MAGA/America First and use those candidates as part of a strategy to neuter the Dims go to tactic of identity politics the Dims are in fricking trouble.
America desperately needs people like Winsome Sears, Ben Carson, Candace Ownes, Jason Whitlock, James Golden, Thomas Sowell, Leo Terrell, etc. to become the preferred image for Black Americans. Today, many black Americans are still holding up rappers, athletes and race hustlers as their role models…..this has to change and when it does the Dims primary strategy to divide and conquer using identity and is likely over
for 4 years... out reach has been a priority. Thank God the old RINOs lost control!
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