re: Update on the coaching search: The next HC will not be Jimbo Fisher.

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I refuse to believe Napier is in the top 4 but Aranda isn't. Sorry not buying it.

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i actually agree 100%. Dave and napier are essentially the same candidate in a lot of ways with dave being way better on defense than napier is on offense. Napier is the better recruiter.

only way i think this could be possible is if aranda just doesnt want to leave baylor. i know dave is a little different in his approach so maybe that is it. not buying the it would take top 3 money to get him BS. if that is your guy you pay it.

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Napier is not in the top six.

The top 4 are (in no particular order)

Riley
Jimbo
Petersen
Aranda

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peterson is no coming out of retirement.

its essentially

Homeruns:
a) Riley
b) Jimbo(not my opinion but it is in grand scheme)


Fallbacks and all are about the same level with each candidate having different pros and cons

C) aranda
D) napier
E) tucker

the fallback options:
fleck, campbell


not coming for various reasons:
urban(i fricking wish)
cristoball
fickel

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Somebody tell me if we're believing this guy

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I'm still on the fence. There are unbelievable parts to the story but he did call how Ed would be fired a week before Kentucky and tbl concurred with his last topic. I'd like to see one more hit before I'm on board, but he's either very lucky or at least isn't completely full of shite even if he's not being fed the full picture.

just my opinion is we arent getting the following as they are not coming here and have zero reason to come here

Riley- could win an NC just as easily at OU. Same resources, they will match pay. only advantage would be recruiting but in general OU does so good in texas it might as well be an in state school. Why would he leave and WTF can LSU offer that OU cant?

Dabo- Why? he has built clemson into a power and has recruited lights out. Sure his QB is struggling but a simple change to the OC might change that. QB is very talented. Dan Radacovich gives him any and everything he could want. What does LSU offer that Clemson cant? SEC play??? why would someone want that if they didnt have too.


Jimbo- again i ask why would he leave? they will match any pay we have. they have more money than anyone and are willing to spend like drunken sailors. Have better in state recruiting than us......so again, Why would he leave and WTF can LSU offer that A&M cant?


Fickel- likes the midwest, has made it very very clear he doesnt want to leave the midwest or ohio if possible. Wants teh OSU job. Has cincy moving to a P5 conference where he can get a playoff invite every year if he goes undefeated. has made it very clear its not even about money.

NFL HC- we arent getting an nfl hc unless its Rhule. and it would have to be him deciding he doesnt want to coach in the nfl which with his owner knowing it was a 3 year rebuild....i doubt thats the case.

Urban- i dont think any college will risk it for him. not in this environment. Cheating on his wife is certainly shitty, but the main reason people cant do it is it shows incredablly bad judgement for a CEO of a major business. PLus throw in title ix and it just cant happen.

Kiffin- i have no doubt he wants the job, i just dont think it happens due to immaturity off the field in the past, job hopping and that he hasnt put together back to back quality seasons in 3 different stops now.

Franklin- i believe the rumors that he was talked to and it went horrible. He is essentially 500 in conference without moorehead at PSU and is 500 overall in college without him. His trying to fight a fan, his hiding from the media, his screw ups on who they are playing, his talking about CFB having many moving parts just screams a no.


in the end, your left with

Aranda, Napier, Tucker, Fleck, Campbell, Gundy, Bill o Brien essentially (correct me if i am wrong and there is someone else)


interview and chose from there. Certainly it would seem the first 3 have the upper hand for various reasons and that the order would prolly be Aranda, Napier, Tucker

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In fact, I suspect the overture was already made by Woodward, and that's why Fisher got a raise and extension right before the season.

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Now this guy knows how to read the news...

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The next HC will not be Jimbo Fisher.

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K...keep me posted...

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if there was a meeting, it sure AF wouldn’t be at LSU.

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Yep. That person is obviously lying for a multitude of reasons (notably that we would be in complete meltdown if Lincoln Riley showed up at football ops), but even if we ignore that, in person interviews are done at airport lounges at major airports because it's inconspicuous and the people around you are either high powered business people who know how it is or people who just can't pick out, say, Dabo Swinney in a crowd.

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Either you’re willing to wait until his season is over or you’re moving forward if they are wanting to have someone in place within the next 3-4 weeks.

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I don't understand why this board struggles so hard with the concept of accepting a job and not starting immediately. Losing early signing day could make Woodward reconsider the offer for anybody, but there is zero reason why everything but the lawyers signing on the dotted line couldn't have been done 5 weeks ago even if they don't start until February.

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Dave and napier are essentially the same candidate in a lot of ways with dave being way better on defense than napier is on offense. Napier is the better recruiter.

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Eh, I think Aranda is thought highly of by the athletic department and probably is on the shortlist, but I don't think it's really fair to say they're essentially the same candidate. They're in the same tier, but they're pretty different coaches. Napier is a major program builder that recruits with the best of them and is a fine passing game guy Xs and Os speaking. Aranda is very well known by administration and coaches with the best of them X's and O's wise, but his recruiting is a bit of an unknown to outsiders given his career. I'd definitely be happy with either, but they're different flavors. If Aranda is actually an awesome recruiter then it's just a no brainer hire on him.

As for Dabo, everything I've heard about him as a person says that he's staying at Clemson until Clemson runs him out of town, a lot of people think his schtick is a schtick but really that's just who he is, but there's no doubt that LSU is the significantly better place to be than Clemson program wise. Clemson was ~Ole Miss before Dabo. Clemson is a better program than that now thanks to Dabo, but it's not clear where they actually fall without him.

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Objective Tiger

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So Tigerbait1977 finally created his own account, and spewing the same BS as he did in the OP.

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Objective Tiger
11/1/2021
10 posts

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Stop engaging this guy. His very first post was also about Jimbo not coming to LSU. He's a closet A&M fan. He's looking for attention and laughing his arse off at your responses.

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Jimbo has averaged roughly a top 8 class since taking the Aggie job. And the average is weighted down by the 2018 transition class that Jimbo had like 3 weeks to sign.

His other classes at A&M have been ranked 4th (2019), 6th (2020) and 8th (2021). He is currently on track to sign his best class ever in 2022 (including his FSU classes).

He’s doing all of this without a conference or national title at A&M.

Would it be a little easier to get these results at LSU? I don’t know. Maybe? How do we even measure that? And what does it even mean if his baseline at A&M is a top 10 class with a top 5 class every 2-3 years?

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thats my point. he has no reason to leave imo unless he really doesnt like the admin. to me A&M will spend whatever he ask.

i cant realyl see it but also wouldnt be surprised at all just due to Jimbos history with LSU and Woodward.

now Riley.....i would be fricking floored.