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Narrative that "LSU just doesn't seem to have the talent"

Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:26 pm
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2754 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:26 pm
Calling B.S. on that one. Lost 3 ALL-AMERICANS so far this season and our most experienced QB in waiting for 2021 season and we're still rolling along - even though the road has had its ups and downs. ANYONE who has watched LSU play live (4 games at home) has seen the talent on the field. I sense some relief from the team now that they know CEO is gone and they know they can run the football on offense. Defensively everyone has got to trust their reads. Mis-direction is killing us! Assistant coaches even seem to be getting better. Being competitive in the SEC West is what it's all about. I predict we play our best game of the year in Oxford this weekend. Stars are aligning nicely for a finishing kick to end this season. We still have elite talent. One game at a time. NEXT!
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2315 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:27 pm to
That's a narrative?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42188 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

we're still rolling along


Rolling like a winnebago with flats
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22557 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:31 pm to
Where is this coming from??
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37006 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

I sense some relief from the team now that they know CEO is gone and they know they can run the football on offense.
Your timeline is a bit off there pal.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Narrative that "LSU just doesn't seem to have the talent"


it is a pretty sad take.

even with attrition and injuries we're still one of the top 10 or so talented teams.

like, who the fuk are we playing every week with more talent?

other schools have the same issue.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:41 pm to
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Narrative that "LSU just doesn't seem to have the talent"


I've heard numerous stories with the theme, "what's wrong with LSU" since the UCLA game this year from ALL the talking heads in the sports world...

Not only have I NOT heard the narrative you suggested, that "LSU doesn't seem to have the talent," I've actually heard from nearly all that LSU DOES have the talent....

Where did you hear this?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14706 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:53 pm to
Only narrative I’ve seen is they lack chest, not talent.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50484 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Narrative that "LSU just doesn't seem to have the talent"


This isn't a thing.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4697 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 5:56 pm to
The narrative is our coaching staff has squandered the talent of top 5 recruiting classes
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56623 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 6:00 pm to
The narrative definitely exists that the "talent" they recruited on signing day and with transfers is not producing what it should have or even contributing.

You can't recruit 4 and 5 star guys that transfer, are ineligible, get injured, don't play and can't win a starting or backup job and say how talented your team is. You have to take the talent you get, develop it, get and then keep those players on the field constantly improving. LSU hasn't done that the last two seasons.

Talent has declared and left, been dismissed, under performed, opted out, been injured, etc etc etc.

The team is not as talented as some thought it was, and maybe should have been.

How much of that is on the kids for not working hard, don't know.
How much of that is on the coaches for not developing, don't know.
How much of that is on the staff for bad evaluations, don't know.

What I do know is, the 4 and 5 star kids LSU has recruited are not the 4 and 5 star kids teams like UGA and Bama have recruited. More of those kids on those rosters are playing, contributing and developing.

Thats the narrative and it's accurate.

Doesn't mean they arent talented...it just means they aren't as talented as they probably should be and people thought they would be.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 6:03 pm to
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The narrative definitely exists that the "talent" they recruited on signing day and with transfers is not producing what it should have or even contributing.


So, Coaching.

quote:

What I do know is, the 4 and 5 star kids LSU has recruited are not the 4 and 5 star kids teams like UGA and Bama have recruited. More of those kids on those rosters are playing, contributing and developing.


So, Coaching.

quote:

Doesn't mean they arent talented...it just means they aren't as talented as they probably should be and people thought they would be.


So.....once again....Coaching. Got it.

That's why the move has been made.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56623 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

So, Coaching.


Absolutely a piece but these kids have to carry alot of the responsibility too.

O wasn't failing classes for Emery
O isnt force feeding Kardell Thomas pancakes
O didnt twist Boutte's knee
O didnt set the weed policy causing the dismissal Rosenthal
O didnt break Brennans foot OR tear his rib cartelidge

I mean, it doesnt really matter who's fault it is...the damage is done, corrections have been made but the reality is what it is. The team isn't as talented as it was thought it could have and probably should have been.

They should have elite SEC talent on the field this weekend and they won't.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14732 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:01 pm to
Charles Hannagriff (Hanny podcast) said that LSU only had 1 five star player that played versus UF, Sage Ryan. And that was Ryan's first start.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22190 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:28 pm to
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I sense some relief from the team now that they know CEO is gone and they know they can run the football on offense.


That is a bullshite statement. Go look at how many past and present players have called BS on the GF's at practice story or shown other support from afar.

Same thing happened last year, the prima donnas all laid down and got off the field and the ones that want to play started showing out some.
Posted by gotigas2567
Member since Oct 2021
20 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:29 pm to
Only narrative I’ve seen is that they lack coaching, not talent.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:33 pm to
LSU would be undefeated with a decent coaching staff
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15301 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:33 pm to
Losing badly to UCLA, losing to Auburnt and getting blown out by UK is rolling along? I will have to re-think my view about what constitutes "rolling along"?

Jiminy Cricket...

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15301 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:37 pm to
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You can't recruit 4 and 5 star guys that transfer, are ineligible, get injured, don't play and can't win a starting or backup job and say how talented your team is. You have to take the talent you get, develop it, get and then keep those players on the field constantly improving. LSU hasn't done that the last two seasons.


This. I thought that Miles was awful at developing players, but Orgeron makes him look like the greatest coach at developing players in the history of the game.

Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11800 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:01 pm to
We're actually a little light on speed. We have no one like the Bama burners from the past few years - i.e. Waddle, Ruggs, Jeudy, #1 there now. We may have a couple, but they don't get the ball.
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