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Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:20 am to Pelican fan99
quote:I remember at the start when everyone wanted MOAR VENTILATORS!!! We had several RT's posting here that ventilators weren't going to be all that helpful.
This has pretty much been known since the beginning.
Those posters were right.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:26 am to Kattail
The doctors in all of this are a complete and utter failure because for most of them they will just go with the CDC guidelines for treatment and not actually diagnose and prescribe a treatment plan themselves. My mother died from this malpractice in February. She was diagnosed and sent home to treat the symptoms and when rushed to the hospital Remdesivir was what they gave her and ultimately killed her. Fast forward to 3 weeks ago, I come down with the Rona. Dr will not give me a Z pack nor prescribe monoclonal antibodies and goes on a rant about Ivermectin even though I didn’t bring it up. The reasoning behind it all was because it wasn’t the recommended treatment from the CDC. I had been using ivermectin once a week and taking vitamins d and c, zinc and CoQ10 daily for months. Finally got a Z pack and antibody treatment from another Dr. and kicked the rona in the teeth.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:31 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Covid was nothing more than the sniffles for me, but I would not recommend anyone go to the hospital for it. They blanket everyone with Remdesivir, vanc, and zosyn, then wonder why kidneys start to fail. Remdesivir is absolutely useless.
Get antibodies, take Tylenol, and the most important thing is to move around. Don’t just sit on the couch or lay in bed. Go for a walk and exercise if you can tolerate it
Get antibodies, take Tylenol, and the most important thing is to move around. Don’t just sit on the couch or lay in bed. Go for a walk and exercise if you can tolerate it
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:31 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
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He says he’s seen people die whom he knows would live if they simply weren’t sedated and then intubated.
I lived through this and was told my survival and subsequent recovery was 1 in 10,000.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:34 am to SomewhereDownInTX
quote:
Finally got a Z pack and antibody treatment from another Dr. and kicked the rona in the teeth
How did you get another doctor so fast? My pcp is a dolt too
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:37 am to teke184
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Doctors tend to be dictators.
Arrogance. Playing God every day will do that to you.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:42 am to PollyDawg
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I remember many doctors speaking out in favor of the ACA and even embraced the death panels deciding who received care and who didn't.
Because many doctors have a God complex.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:49 am to SomewhereDownInTX
quote:
Finally got a Z pack and antibody treatment from another Dr. and kicked the rona in the teeth.
My entire family caught the COVID and I started them all on three antivirals. I was only worried about my 79 year old dad and 54 year old wife. My son kicked its arse with no meds. I started my dad and wife on ivermectin, HCQ and famotidine. No z-pac because I was concerned with the potential interaction with HCQ. I just wanted to attack the virus with as much antivirals as possible. I had them on antivirals for 5 days. Once I had them on the antiviral I immediately found a monoclonal antibody infusion site. Both my wife and dad received monoclonal antibodies the 2nd day of infection. My wife fully recovered in 2 days. My dad fully recovered in 7 days.
Oh and I got them both a saline IV to hydrate them early in the infection. Dehydration can make things a lot more difficult.
(Ironically I was surrounded by the COVID and never tested positive. I had COVID last summer...very mild...my natural antibodies must still be working.)
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:50 am to DonaldPump
quote:
Get antibodies, take Tylenol, and the most important thing is to move around. Don’t just sit on the couch or lay in bed. Go for a walk and exercise if you can tolerate it
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:58 am to CAD703X
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Walgreens refused to fill the Rx
Had COVID back in August. I know my ENT extremely well so I called him and told him I had it and what do I need to do. He sent a script over to CVS for HCL, Steroids, and a Z-Pak. HCL and the Z- Pak come in a prepackaged box and I only had 12 HCLs. So all they had to do was count out 12 HCL.
It took them almost 2 and a half days to do that, and I was so fed up and frustrated I called the local mom and pop pharmacy near me. They called CVS trying to get them to transfer it over and they wouldn’t do it. And the local pharmacy told me they have been doing that for weeks, flat out refusing to transfer those scripts over. Luckily my Doc sent me a scanned copy of my scripts and the local pharmacist filled it off that.
Pretty sickening that those big chain pharmacies are deciding if they will fill a legit script or not and also refusing to transfer scripts. Think of how many people have had major issues due to that…
Never going back to a CVS or Walgreens ever again.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:03 am to xxTIMMYxx
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How did you get another doctor so fast? My pcp is a dolt too
I was tested and diagnosed at an express health care place, called my PCP and he prescribed the meds over the phone since I had a positive test result.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:04 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
quote:Happened with one of my Soldiers in 2020. Relatively young and healthy, diagnosed with COVID, eventually ended up on an ECMO.
He says he’s seen people die whom he knows would live if they simply weren’t sedated and then intubated.
Dead.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:04 am to KG5989
My MIL was exposed this weekend by her granddaughter. She has advanced COPD so we asked her NP about the possibility of a prophylactic Ivermectin prescription. She said “that’s horse medicine.” MIL is never going back to her.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:07 am to SomewhereDownInTX
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My mother died from this malpractice in February. She was diagnosed and sent home to treat the symptoms and when rushed to the hospital Remdesivir was what they gave her and ultimately killed her. F
I’m sorry about your Mother. This is what happened to my BIL just last month. Upon testing positive was sent home with instructions to “take what makes him feel better” went downhill from there, given Remdesivir in the hospital, had “COVID pneumonia”, fought like hell for days, put on a ventilator and died within hours. . He was given the monoclonal antibody infusion but it was on day 11, too late I think. Healthy 61 year old.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:10 am to teke184
quote:If your reference is to physiology and risk-benefits of various medical interventions, then yes, we do know better. That fact oddly seems to rankle you. Instead, you should thank goodness it's true. The alternative would suck.
they know better than all the peons under them
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:17 am to theunknownknight
quote:4. A patient is already maxed on BiPAP with SpO2's in the 70's and is on the cusp of 2° multisystem damage and death as a result. Put more simply, vents are employed for CV19 when odds of survival w/o them approach zero.
The only reasons I can think are:
1. The 50,000 dollar reimbursement for ventilator usage
2. Trying to kill people to keep the “numbers” up and scare us
3. The doctors are retards
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:25 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
If your reference is to physiology and risk-benefits of various medical interventions, then yes, we do know better. That fact oddly seems to rankle you. Instead, you should thank goodness it's true. The alternative would suck.
Why not attack the virus early with a litany of harmless and cheap antivirals.
Ivermectin: ACE-2 binding.
HCQ - ionophore facilitation to interrupt mRNA polymerase.
Famotidine - interrupt amino acid assimilation that make viral proteins.
All these antivirals are harmless and cheap. The worse case prescribing these is they do nothing which is the same result as sending the patients home with a pat on the back and take two Tylenol and call me if things get worse. Best case is they are what's needed to keep some patients out of the hospital.
It's totally bizzare how ivermectin and HCQ have been demonized. At least famotidine is still allowed but I have a feeling that's on the edge of being a conspiracy theory medication soon.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:59 am to GumboPot
Hospitals murdering COVID-19 patients by forcing them to take deadly drugs like remdesivir and midazolam
LINK - https://dreddymd.com/2021/09/30/hospitals-murdering-covid-19-patients-by-forcing-them-to-take-poisonous-drugs/
LINK - https://dreddymd.com/2021/09/30/hospitals-murdering-covid-19-patients-by-forcing-them-to-take-poisonous-drugs/
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:01 am to GumboPot
quote:You're preaching to the choir GP.
Why not attack the virus early with a litany of harmless and cheap antivirals.
Ivermectin: ACE-2 binding.
HCQ - ionophore facilitation to interrupt mRNA polymerase.
Famotidine - interrupt amino acid assimilation that make viral proteins.
All these antivirals are harmless and cheap.
As an aside, technically those meds are not "antivirals". They do seem to exhibit antiviral properties though.
quote:It's worse than bizarre. If either is proven at some point to be even marginally effective (and especially with ivermectin, that may be the case), there will be everloving hell to pay.
It's totally bizzare how ivermectin and HCQ have been demonized.
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