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Educational Attainment Score using DNA, doesn't look good for 'equity' proponents

Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:37 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:37 am
Traitwell.com claims it can take your DNA profile and figure out education aptitude




Doesn't look like good news for the 'equity' crowd.

I remember Zach discussing a book called 'The Bell Curve' that looked similar in direction.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:40 am to
I hadn’t even reached the bottom of your post when I thought: “Gee…that looks an awful lot like one of those racist Bell Curves”.
Posted by Jack Carter
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:40 am to
That’s racist! We need to bring equity to science, data and math!

- stupid, rabid, filthy leftists
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:42 am to
It's a free service. Hmmm....

What purposes could they be using this data for besides letting you know how smart you can be?
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:42 am to
The equity thing will never work in a successful country. But, it’s not about that. This is a Marxist move
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:46 am to
Imagine being a anthropologist today and trying to report your findings honestly.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:49 am to
quote:

It's a free service. Hmmm....

What purposes could they be using this data for besides letting you know how smart you can be?





I don't know but they could be opening a big can of worms.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:58 am to
quote:

The equity thing will never work in a successful country. But, it’s not about that. This is a Marxist move


It is fully capable of destroying a successful country and its culture though.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

that looks an awful lot like one of those racist Bell Curves”.


The funniest thing is that the book is 872 pages. Less than 50 pages have anything to do with race.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:05 pm to
Here is equity in math:

One person: 2+2=4
Second person: 2+2=57
Third person: 2+2=potato

Yay, everyone is right!
Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:23 pm to


quote:

The introduction states six of the authors' assumptions, which they claim to be "beyond significant technical dispute":
There is such a difference as a general factor of cognitive ability on which human beings differ.
All standardized tests of academic aptitude or achievement measure this general factor to some degree, but IQ tests expressly designed for that purpose measure it most accurately.
IQ scores match, to a first degree, whatever it is that people mean when they use the word intelligent, or smart in ordinary language.
IQ scores are stable, although not perfectly so, over much of a person's life.
Properly administered IQ tests are not demonstrably biased against social, economic, ethnic, or racial groups.
Cognitive ability is substantially heritable, apparently no less than 40 percent and no more than 80 percent.

At the close of the introduction, the authors warn the reader against committing the ecological fallacy of inferring things about individuals based on the aggregate data presented in the book. They also assert that intelligence is just one of many valuable human attributes and one whose importance among human virtues is overrated.
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Member since Jun 2016
14314 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:55 pm to
The Bell Curve gave leftest orgasmic fits of indignation.

I bought and read it.

Cliff notes.
Their are extremely minor differences in racial IQ scores. No big deal really.
Whites are only the third highest race.
Posted by JimEagle
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 2:02 pm to
For the love of god don't upload your genetic data to some random site.
Posted by jackamo3300
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Imagine being a anthropologist today and trying to report your findings honestly.


As for anthropologists in any age, how many of them could the nation have ever put stock in for the legitimacy of their studies, analyses, and scenarios, considering what was being done to the discipline early on; and what's going on now in the :"Cultural Anthropology" classes in the propaganda mills.

When the one considered the "gold standard" and a major reference for anthropologists, Margaret Mead, fraternized with the little revisionist Gramscians from the Institute in Frankfurt.

It's said that she "changed the way we study cultures."

Any possibility at all that her perspective could've been influenced by proximity to marxian psycho-babble with the company she kept.

Then she doubled down on it all by attending that anti-West celebration they called the 10 Macy Conferences sponsored by the Josiah Macy Foundation.

Presided over by the Cybernetics Group and attended by their guest of honor the one who coined the term "cybernetics" - Norbert Wiener - along with fellow-travelers Kurt Lewin, Paul Lazarsfeld, and Max Horkheimer, among others.

The Macy Conferences and all they were involved with are worth looking into as integral to how we've arrived at this dubious point in this now reeling Republic.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:41 pm to

true that

how about dont even have it analysed in the first place
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19178 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:55 pm to
Have you guys ever looked at the parameters for funding for a project via World Bank, IMF, Pan American, UN, USAID, etc.

They explicitly state that projects dealing with minorities, women, etc are their platforms for grant and or loans.

So basically you have to skew whatever you are doing to benefit the aforementioned......and we wonder why all the programs coming out of academia are so leftist in nature????
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 4:08 pm to
Most honest people acknowledge the genetic differences between the various ethnicities.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The equity thing will never work in a successful country. But, it’s not about that. This is a Marxist move


Nope! It’s all an elaborate method of mass mind control that serves to keep the Authoritarian Marxists in power.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Educational Attainment Score using DNA, doesn't look good for 'equity' proponents
A devil's advocate would assume social/racial contributions critical to educational attainment. So DNA would simply be conformational of that known, rather than a new revelation.

Zach's IQ curve material is different. But even straight IQ/genetic comparisons show an expanding differential with age, indicating societal variables on top of genetics.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
25553 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

At the close of the introduction, the authors warn the reader against committing the ecological fallacy of inferring things about individuals based on the aggregate data presented in the book. They also assert that intelligence is just one of many valuable human attributes and one whose importance among human virtues is overrated.


Indeed. In WWII, we needed a great many researchers and the number of people who met the previous criteria of being in the upper 5% of the upper 5% academically just didn't exist. Cattell was tasked with how to fill the gap. After a great deal of reading about creative persons and innovators, he ultimately went with finding "people with a knack" for solving problems well beyond academics.

It worked. Post WWII analysis of results showed that people with a knack, did substantially better than those from the previous academic criteria.
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